Ok, per the RRG, a given defense token can only be spent once per attack, and the defender can only spend a type of defense token once per attack.

I think that means that if Sloane spends one brace off an ace, the ace could still spend the other, assuming no other accuracy results. Sound about right?

34 minutes ago, Baltanok said:

Ok, per the RRG, a given defense token can only be spent once per attack, and the defender can only spend a type of defense token once per attack.

I think that means that if Sloane spends one brace off an ace, the ace could still spend the other, assuming no other accuracy results. Sound about right?

The logic is sound.

Jup, that's the question everyone is asking.

There are both opinions around. Yes he can and no he cannot.

Because the RRG is not really clear for this. Mostly because there were no cards that caused this problem so far. No card allowed the opponent to spend the defense tokens.

Edit: RRG quote:

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• The defender cannot spend more than one defense token of each type per attack.
• A defense token cannot be spent more than once during an attack.

The second part is the problem one. For the attacker, there was no way so far to spend the defense tokens from the defender (as far as i know). So this rule was fine. But now there is a card that can do it. And Sloane will need a FAQ errata or clarification. Or the RRG need an update or FAQ entry.

Opinions be damned, we're after FACTS


The fact is, as written now, you are Correct... A Single Defense Token can only be spent Once during an Attack, and the Defender cannot spend more than one token of each type per attack.

Which means as long as the defender is trying not to spend 2 tokens of the same type, its legal... Because the attacker under Sloane is spending one

Anyone who says otherwise isn't Reading the Rules a Written.

Am I completely convinced it won't be fixed up with Errata? No, I'm not - its entirely plausible that it will be. But we can't really run our games based on that speculation, since it is raw speculation...

So the way to do so, until told otherwise, is VERY clear. Opposition to this is blatantly ignorant. (Either because they're refusing to read rules, or they DO have a line on Rules intent through testing, and they're refusing to honour their NDA.)

Thanks folks. I was trying to just ask about the 2 brace aces, to sidestep the argument about attacker spending a defense token to prevent the defender from doing so.

Personal opinion is same as dras's on the double-spending of a defense token

Yeah, as Dras said, this one is pretty open and shut.

The question of whether Sloane's effect is meant to prevent the spending of the same token is... if not murky, at least debatable on intent.

This question, though, is not that, and it's very clear: no one can spend the same token twice in a given attack, but the defender can't spend multiple of the same type during an attack.