An appeal to the disappointed Imps and Rebs

By MaxPower, in X-Wing

11 hours ago, Khyros said:

but it seems like whenever I'm list building Rebels, if it doesn't have Biggs, it's not worth flying

What are you talking about?

Miranda+Dash, Samsung Galaxy S7, Mom Squadron, Phoenix Squadron, Star Wars Rebels* to name just a few. None of those use Biggs, and the first three seen solid tournament results in recent past.

*this one is my own invention, had decent success with it. http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/690658/star-wars-rebels

Edited by Elavion
14 hours ago, DariusAPB said:

Remember when our RGI interceptors were special because we could add two modifications? Pepparidge farm remembers.

Normally FFG don't use the same fix technique twice, so this is... I dunno... Meh to me. Not that I'm a huge scum fan.

A Royal Guard Pilot with Shield Upgrade and Hull upgrade is 29pts for PS6 3/3/4/1 with one of the best dials in the game.

A Black Sun Ace with Vaksai, Vectored Thrusters, Stealth Device, and Engine Upgrade is 29 points for PS5 3/3/4/1 and an average dial.

(I'm not saying this is how you have to upgrade each ship, but they seem pretty equal on value for what you get)

The Royal Guard TIE is still a solid title because it is on such a good ship. It is a way to make interceptors more resilient because that is their major weakness. The Vaksai title is an amazing title on an okay ship that will hopefully give people more flexibility in their squad. I can see several awesome options out of the gate, giving more maneuverability, agility, nasty tricks, or health. I don't think any of those builds will reach the current power ceiling, but they do seem like a lot of fun to fly.

9 hours ago, Rat of Vengence said:

Nice to see you were successfully able to identify some of the whinging and whining as belonging to you. Well done.

*goes gets gold star for Rinnie

If you want to continue to spam negative waves, you really should be prepared for people to be over it :)

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I love that in your view, we can only enjoy our plastic space ships and use this forum how you see fit. How is saying THREE mod slots is ridiculous/cornering is whinging?

Well I'm out before I get another warning point for feeding the trolls..

Ok challenge: name one thing that the K fight will now be able to do that is significantly more powerful then something you can do with the T-70.

barring the list with five of them there really isn't much and low ps swarmy lists have their own drawbacks to balance things out.

3 minutes ago, Princezilla said:

Ok challenge: name one thing that the K fight will now be able to do that is significantly more powerful then something you can do with the T-70.

barring the list with five of them there really isn't much and low ps swarmy lists have their own drawbacks to balance things out.

PS 11 for under 30 points.

5 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

PS 11 for under 30 points.

for less health and no re-positioning to take advantage of all that PS, when you add that in the cost is pretty much the same.

38 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

PS 11 for under 30 points.

Tycho, Adaptability, VI. Throw on a Procket for fun, and you still only hit 30.

On 5/30/2017 at 2:57 PM, citruscannon said:

Yep, agreed on all fronts.

I have always been a big fan of the idea of small ships being where the weight of the game is, it's just consistently a lot more fun. And if this means that we see more of that and decreased reliance of large PWT ships, the better.

This. Nice....

1 hour ago, Rakaydos said:

Tycho, Adaptability, VI. Throw on a Procket for fun, and you still only hit 30.

Didn't know Tycho was the last jedi piloting a T-70. That's awesome!;)

Tycho with adapt? Thats no 11. Just a 9.

1 minute ago, Schu81 said:

Tycho with adapt? Thats no 11. Just a 9.

keep reading.

Can you put VI on top of that? Seems strange... why would anybody waste 2 elites on the same effect?

Yeah, I got your point though. Its possible to get a ps 11 tycho. Makes no sense though

10 hours ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:

I love that in your view, we can only enjoy our plastic space ships and use this forum how you see fit. How is saying THREE mod slots is ridiculous/cornering is whinging?

Well I'm out before I get another warning point for feeding the trolls..

Lol, no that's not what I said Rinnie. I just said I'm over people spamming the same whines in many threads. Call me troll if that makes you feel better, but I'm just calling it as it is. Now how about we move onto something more constructive? :)

RoV

On ‎31‎/‎05‎/‎2017 at 0:47 PM, Darth Meanie said:

I would fight with you about this, but I'm kinda koi.

Well, as long as you don't keep carping on about it.

I remember after the world 2015 that Dev will do more "ace box" to fix ship. They want to see more : tie defender, tie bomber, tie punisher, e-wing, x-wing, m3-a, virago and kihraxz.

Just look what we have :

Imperial veteran : tie bomber & tie defender

Heroes of the resistance : They have said astromech integrated is a fix for x-wing (but may be more later ?)

Scum Epic : M3-A

Guns for hire : Virago and Kihraxz

So judging what is left we can probably have a rebel "ace box" with e-wing and x-wing for the future and Punisher too.

7 minutes ago, Arkanta974 said:

I remember after the world 2015 that Dev will do more "ace box" to fix ship. They want to see more : tie defender, tie bomber, tie punisher, e-wing, x-wing, m3-a, virago and kihraxz.

Just look what we have :

Imperial veteran : tie bomber & tie defender

Heroes of the resistance : They have said astromech integrated is a fix for x-wing (but may be more later ?)

Scum Epic : M3-A

Guns for hire : Virago and Kihraxz

So judging what is left we can probably have a rebel "ace box" with e-wing and x-wing for the future and Punisher too.

Plus Kylo Ren's Advanced Tie Intercepter will include Tie Intercepter buffs.

Just now, Rakaydos said:

Plus Kylo Ren's Advanced Tie Intercepter will include Tie Intercepter buffs.

They are fine for me but I will not disagree a small buff for them ! ;)

Dalan Oberos should be available for Imperial players. He was hired by an Imperial Governor to hunt down force users and rebels in Chronicles.

1 hour ago, Arkanta974 said:

I remember after the world 2015 that Dev will do more "ace box" to fix ship. They want to see more : tie defender, tie bomber, tie punisher, e-wing, x-wing, m3-a, virago and kihraxz.

Just look what we have :

Imperial veteran : tie bomber & tie defender

Heroes of the resistance : They have said astromech integrated is a fix for x-wing (but may be more later ?)

Scum Epic : M3-A

Guns for hire : Virago and Kihraxz

So judging what is left we can probably have a rebel "ace box" with e-wing and x-wing for the future and Punisher too.

It'll be the E-Wing and the Y-Wing not the X-Wing. The Y Wing is the only remaining ship from the first three waves to only have two aces and the only OT ship to never receive any new pilots.

Also even if you literally just reprint it's named pilots with EPTs, even at +1 point, it'll be a huge boon.

1 hour ago, Princezilla said:

It'll be the E-Wing and the Y-Wing not the X-Wing. The Y Wing is the only remaining ship from the first three waves to only have two aces and the only OT ship to never receive any new pilots.

Rebel : Y-Wing / E-Wing and Empire : Punisher / Phantom ? Since these ship have only 2 aces

Just see Armada have two pilots we don't see yet : Morna Kee (vt-49) ; Ciena Ree (interceptor), we can expect them too

9 minutes ago, Arkanta974 said:

Rebel : Y-Wing / E-Wing and Empire : Punisher / Phantom ? Since these ship have only 2 aces

Just see Armada have two pilots we don't see yet : Morna Kee (vt-49) ; Ciena Ree (interceptor), we can expect them too

It'd be cool to see another box like Most Wanted which just adds a grabbag of new pilots for ships which aren't necessarily in the box.

On 2017-05-30 at 2:33 PM, MaxPower said:

Guys.

I get it. I'm a purely imperial player myself and I've received several beatings by scum players in the past.

But what some of you are doing is in my opinion very detrimental to both the game as well as the community. It seems to me that many of you are on the "Give my faction the goodies! Now!"-train. And I see that both the Empire as well as Rebels are lacking some punch right now.

BUT

Please... try to see the good. Any addition to the game that does not buff Jumpmasters is a welcome addition. In particular any new addition to the game that seeks to bring unplayed elements back into the game. Even if I keep losing, I'd rather lose against Talonbane+Old Teroch+Fenn Rau, then 5x Khiraxz, then Guri+Talonbane+Zuckus then ... instead of 3x Parattani and 3x Triple Jumps.

Any diversity is good if your list is lacking against certain elements. Talonbane + Guri (w Autothrusters) = Probably no bombs on the enemy side. And the Inquisitor is great against both. Also: Defenders seem pretty slick against Khiraxz still.

Also: by buffing these ships, FFG clearly signals that they are aware of underperformers. That should make us hopeful for eventual buffs of X-Wings, Rebel HWKs, TIE Punishers, TIE Ints and the like... Plus, we ARE getting new toys as well, after all. The Agressor expansion seems very well thought out.

TL/DR: Don't whine but enjoy any new additions to the game as long as they are not buffing JM5ks. Rejoice in Xwing diversity.

The thing is, at the moment there is 1 faction that NEEDS a boost to many underperformers and one that doesnt... That's where the frustration comes from.

As I said: I get that.

It's just that negativity towards new scum releases is absolutely the wrong thing to express. It takes away the joy of scum players about a release that has nothing to do with the problems imps are experiencing. Instead it might even help them by shifting the meta. In any case these ships are FUN to fly against, unlike jumpmasters, triple ks or excessively used turrets.

The time for imps will come back. Meanwhile we should be careful not to ruin everybody's fun by constant whining.

10 hours ago, Arkanta974 said:

I remember after the world 2015 that Dev will do more "ace box" to fix ship. They want to see more : tie defender, tie bomber, tie punisher, e-wing, x-wing, m3-a, virago and kihraxz.

Just look what we have :

Imperial veteran : tie bomber & tie defender

Heroes of the resistance : They have said astromech integrated is a fix for x-wing (but may be more later ?)

Scum Epic : M3-A

Guns for hire : Virago and Kihraxz

So judging what is left we can probably have a rebel "ace box" with e-wing and x-wing for the future and Punisher too.

My money is on the ships that don't yet have a Title as that seems to be FFG's modus operandi, that'll be those you noted above, with the addition of the T-65 and the TIE/LN. If however, like you stated, FFG doesn't see IA as the fix for the T-65. Corran will be a bit of a bugger to get around, but I'm sure there is a way; E-Wings are so cool and fun to fly, just pricey. As far as Title releases, look at it this way, they can sell more models (they would sell like freaking hotcakes) without crafting the molds or anything beyond cards and packaging; we would all LOVE a two ship expansion with a T-65 and a TIE/LN that gave both ships new cool Titles. akin to the Guns for Hire. Why the h*** not?? Now no one on the forum would ***** about that beautiful package!

I hope FFG does run Titles to older ships and slows down on the adding of ships that are so edge case that no casual Star Wars lover has a clue what they are.

9 hours ago, Rakaydos said:

Plus Kylo Ren's Advanced Tie Intercepter will include Tie Intercepter buffs.

I don't know about an EMO Interceptor, I'm not excited about that prospect. But hey, a buff to the quintessential glass-cannon would be awesome sauce.

6 hours ago, Arkanta974 said:

Rebel : Y-Wing / E-Wing and Empire : Punisher / Phantom ? Since these ship have only 2 aces

Just see Armada have two pilots we don't see yet : Morna Kee (vt-49) ; Ciena Ree (interceptor), we can expect them too

Cool. I think I'd rather have a revamped and re-Titled Expansion of a Deci and Interceptor before a Kylo fighter....am I right?