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So, just to confirm, a contested ring is different from an unclaimed ring, right?

1 minute ago, Joe From Cincinnati said:

So, just to confirm, a contested ring is different from an unclaimed ring, right?

I believe they confirmed that in the stream last Friday.

I'm curious about the "Retain the ring's conflict type" line. It sounds to me like we're liable to see cards that reference claimed rings' conflict types, if we haven't already (I can never really discount the possibility of my memory just acting up). Very intriguing...

4 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

I believe they confirmed that in the stream last Friday.

I'm curious about the "Retain the ring's conflict type" line. It sounds to me like we're liable to see cards that reference claimed rings' conflict types, if we haven't already (I can never really discount the possibility of my memory just acting up). Very intriguing...

That's what I figured.

As for the conflict type, I think that's probably a design space limiter. Like...maybe there's a card that says "You may declare a conflict type that you don't have in your claimed ring section, even if you already initiated a conflict of that type this round." or something. Just future proofing to prevent shenanigans haha.

Interesting that its a spell that requires no shugenja

Beautiful artwork.

2 minutes ago, JRosen9 said:

Interesting that its a spell that requires no shugenja

Excellent point! I wonder if we'll see some shugenja who, rather than merely casting spells themselves, trigger and get some bonus when you play a spell? Maybe something like, "Reaction: When you play a spell, bow this shugenja to move one Fate from this shugenja to another of your characters."

Three influence... Design must think this is a reasonably potent card. Doesn't seem it at first glance, since you have to pay 1 to swap the rings. I'd guess it shines in either denying your opponent his choice of rings, or potentially in getting to reuse a ring of your choice (assuming you can win the conflict, of course...)

For Phoenix, a bit more, in that we've seen characters who get special abilities when fighting for a specific ring, but so far that's Phoenix only, so shouldn't be driving up the influence cost of that card.

It is also an event not an attachment like Cloud the Mind

4 minutes ago, Isawa Tasatu said:

It is also an event not an attachment like Cloud the Mind

I think they changed the design idea. Now it is just things have a spell keyword, and an effect. For example,Cloud the Mind attachment is the result of the spell, rather than knowing how to do it, because it sticks around.

7 minutes ago, agarrett said:

Three influence... Design must think this is a reasonably potent card. Doesn't seem it at first glance, since you have to pay 1 to swap the rings. I'd guess it shines in either denying your opponent his choice of rings, or potentially in getting to reuse a ring of your choice (assuming you can win the conflict, of course...)

For Phoenix, a bit more, in that we've seen characters who get special abilities when fighting for a specific ring, but so far that's Phoenix only, so shouldn't be driving up the influence cost of that card.

Well, you also get all Fate on the Ring, too. So you could declare a conflict using a Ring you really want the benefit from, win, then switch it out for a Ring that neither player really needs and so has a couple Fate on it.

19 minutes ago, JRosen9 said:

Interesting that its a spell that requires no shugenja

Hmmmmmm.

At first I thought it was only allowed to be included in Phoenix decks, hence no requirement for a shugenja. But then there are 3 'scrolls' for influence at the bottom right of the card, which will allow any player/Clan to include into their deck.

Am interested and confused - at the same time.

1 minute ago, Mirith said:

I think they changed the design idea. Now it is just things have a spell keyword, and an effect. For example,Cloud the Mind attachment is the result of the spell, rather than knowing how to do it, because it sticks around.

It is effectively a kiho... without the Shugenja!

1 minute ago, JJ48 said:

Well, you also get all Fate on the Ring, too. So you could declare a conflict using a Ring you really want the benefit from, win, then switch it out for a Ring that neither player really needs and so has a couple Fate on it.

Also possibly get a ring effect twice? because it goes back into the unclaimed ring pool!

I think that ring manipulation may be very powerful considering the game is built around it.... we shall see.

1 minute ago, Isawa Tasatu said:

It is effectively a kiho... without the Shugenja!

Also possibly get a ring effect twice? because it goes back into the unclaimed ring pool!

3 Types of Rings, Claimed, Unclaimed and Contested. Not sure the last word is exactly correct, but I'm pretty sure the last L5R live explained that.

Also possible that was a dream or hallucination.

Just now, Mirith said:

3 Types of Rings, Claimed, Unclaimed and Contested. Not sure the last word is exactly correct, but I'm pretty sure the last L5R live explained that.

Yes, you swap between your claimed and unclaimed ring which allows in your next conflict to try claim and contest it again?

Just now, Isawa Tasatu said:

Yes, you swap between your claimed and unclaimed ring which allows in your next conflict to try claim and contest it again?

Oh I see your point. Yes, you are correct.

42 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

I believe they confirmed that in the stream last Friday.

I'm curious about the "Retain the ring's conflict type" line. It sounds to me like we're liable to see cards that reference claimed rings' conflict types, if we haven't already (I can never really discount the possibility of my memory just acting up). Very intriguing...

Mori Kuroi talks about both conflict and rings? Maybe just trying to be clear about the effect?

2 minutes ago, Isawa Tasatu said:

Mori Kuroi talks about both conflict and rings? Maybe just trying to be clear about the effect?

I get that, but the wording still seems to imply that the conflict type of claimed and/or unclaimed rings is important (as opposed to just the type of contested rings). We've already seen some cards that reference the element of claimed rings and give you a bonus for them, so I'm thinking we may see some card that references the types of claimed rings and give bonuses based on them. If not in the core, I would almost bet we'll see some such card by the end of the first cycle.

The see spells as events is something that doesn't surprise me, that it doesn'T require a shugenja on the other and does surprise me though.

I don't like not needing a shugenja

From a thematic point of view, I agree that not needing a shugenja sucks..... from a design point of view I can see it making sense. It restricted how spells where designed in the CCG cause most clans could not utilize them and Phoenix could abuse, so a fine balance was required. But normally resulted in spells being over powered or useless.

Question, as I don't know much about production cycles.

When they first started showing spoilers, the cards didn't have a D or C yet in the corner.

Is it possible that there will be a rule book rule stating you can only play spells if you control a shugenja and that, Cloud the Mind was an early spell that was spoiled?

29 minutes ago, Isawa Tasatu said:

Yes, you swap between your claimed and unclaimed ring which allows in your next conflict to try claim and contest it again?

Since the ring remains of the same conflict type, that would tell me you cannot claim it a second time, since if you have done so say political, then the reing remains political and you can only do a military conflict then this turn. So, no claiming the ring twice in the same turn!

Just now, Drudenfusz said:

Since the ring remains of the same conflict type, that would tell me you cannot claim it a second time, since if you have done so say political, then the reing remains political and you can only do a military conflict then this turn. So, no claiming the ring twice in the same turn!

Attack military and claim fire.

Defend. Opponent takes air

Play this card and swap fire for void

Attack political and claim fire.