I would like to know from the members of this forum who have played a six-fleet All Out Offensive for the CC Campaign, how many Imperial Star Destroyers took part in the battle?

Why am I looking for this information? I have been working on creating Imperial Sector Fleets (Squadrons) this weekend as part of my thematic approach to Armada. FFG has created an interesting situation in regards to commanders and the ships (titles) each is associated with, in relation to Canon or Legends sources. We currently have three titles for the ISD: Devastator, Avenger, and Relentless. The first two belong to Vader's (and Ozzel's) Death Squadron while the Relentless belongs to Konstantine. This leaves commanders such as Tarkin, Motti, and Sloane without their ships of note. The Executrix and the Sovereign belong to Tarkin. Motti has the Steel Talon, while Sloane is associated with the Ultimatum and the Vigilance. I am hoping that at some point in the future FFG will release additional title cards for the ships they have produced thus far.

But, what can I do until then? I've been giving thought to creating my own ID tokens with the name of a particular ship printed on each. Thematic play demands that each ship bear a name, so I won't play a ship without one. I also normally purchase one ship for each title. Tarkin, Motti, and Sloane would add at least three more ISD's to my collection, five if I let Tarkin and Sloane double dip. That number grows to six if I anticipate the future arrival of Thrawn (Chimaera) as a commander. That would give me nine ISD's. The only place where I could conceivably run between six (Tarkin, Vader, Sloane) and potentially nine ISD's is the six-fleet All Out Offensive for the CC Campaign.

Has anyone done this?

When my group played the AOO, there were three Imperial Star Destroyers (I believe they were all ISD2s). I used Relentless and my teammate used Avenger. Devastator was not used, largely due to its tendency to be killed every game when being hit by large amounts of firepower.

6 hours ago, Admiral WigT said:

I would like to know from the members of this forum who have played a six-fleet All Out Offensive for the CC Campaign, how many Imperial Star Destroyers took part in the battle?

Why am I looking for this information? I have been working on creating Imperial Sector Fleets (Squadrons) this weekend as part of my thematic approach to Armada. FFG has created an interesting situation in regards to commanders and the ships (titles) each is associated with, in relation to Canon or Legends sources. We currently have three titles for the ISD: Devastator, Avenger, and Relentless. The first two belong to Vader's (and Ozzel's) Death Squadron while the Relentless belonged to Konstantine. This leaves commanders such as Tarkin, Motti, and Sloane without their ships of note. The Executrix and the Sovereign belong to Tarkin. Motti has the Steel Talon, while Sloane is associated with the Ultimatum and the Vigilance. I am hoping that at some point in the future FFG will release additional title cards for the ships they have produced thus far.

But, what can I do until then? I've been giving thought to creating my own ID tokens with the name of a particular ship printed on each. Thematic play demands that each ship bear a name, so I won't play a ship without one. I also normally purchase one ship for each title. Tarkin, Motti, and Sloane would add at least three more ISD's to my collection, five if I let Tarkin and Sloane double dip. That number grows to six if I anticipate the future arrival of Thrawn (Chimaera) as a commander. That would give me nine ISD's. The only place where I could conceivably run between six (Tarkin, Vader, Sloane) and potentially nine ISD's is the six-fleet All Out Offensive for the CC Campaign.

Has anyone done this?

FTFY

Man, if I had 9 ISDs I would try playing 2000-4000 points-a-side games forever! That'd look so glorious. . . (*zones out into a day-dream of 9 ISDs on his Armada table*). . I wouldn't expect even 6 ISDs to be run in a campaign. That would imply that all 3 Imperial fleets are based around 2 ISDs. For nine, you'd have to have 3 ISDs in each fleet (remember: 6 fleet AOA, but only 3 are Imp). The largest I'd expect is 4, where one fleet has 2 and the others have 1 each.

2 in our first. Just Avenger on the table.

3 in our second, with Relentless and Avenger

For kicks:

1 Interdictor in the first, 2 in the second

1 VSD in both first and second

We've managed to carry 4 ISD's in our fleet. However, word of advice, 55pts is a heavy repair cost for an ISD I. Its taken me three turns to get the money to bring the Demolisher title into my fleet with all the trimmings. The cost of constantly refitting one of my two ISD's has taken a heavy toll.

1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Man, if I had 9 ISDs I would try playing 2000-4000 points-a-side games forever! That'd look so glorious. . . (*zones out into a day-dream of 9 ISDs on his Armada table*). . I wouldn't expect even 6 ISDs to be run in a campaign. That would imply that all 3 Imperial fleets are based around 2 ISDs. For nine, you'd have to have 3 ISDs in each fleet (remember: 6 fleet AOA, but only 3 are Imp). The largest I'd expect is 4, where one fleet has 2 and the others have 1 each.

To frost the cake so to speak, the addition of the SSD to the game would allow you to add Tagge on the Annihilator and either Ozzel, Vader, or Piett on the Executor. Thematically, only one SSD would command a large fleet of ISDs. Your 2000 to 4000 point game would resemble the Battle of Endor, or maybe Jakku. And then there's the Rebel side...

I suspected that four, possibly five ISDs would be practical for an All Out Offensive.

1 hour ago, Ginkapo said:

We've managed to carry 4 ISD's in our fleet. However, word of advice, 55pts is a heavy repair cost for an ISD I. Its taken me three turns to get the money to bring the Demolisher title into my fleet with all the trimmings. The cost of constantly refitting one of my two ISD's has taken a heavy toll.

I completely agree with you in regards to repair cost and its limitations. More than four ISD's would probably not fit well with the campaign mechanics.

We had 5 ISD, one player had 3, and the other two one apiece.

4 ISD's. 3 ISD II's and 1 ISD I
Total composition padded out with 1 VSD, 1 Interdictor, 3 Arquitens, 1 Raider and 3 Gozantis

For reference, I played Rebel

I think our first CC's All Out was:

2xISD2 (Avenger), Interdictor Suppression (Interdictor), VSD1, 3xArq (Hand, Cent), 2x Raider, 3-4 Gozanti.

MC80 Command (Defiance), MC80 Battle (Mon Karren), MC80 Star, 2xMC30 Torpedo (Admo), Pelta Assault (Phoenix), Nebulon (Yavaris), 2xCR90A, 4+ transports

Two very canon-looking fleets. Imperials had a ISD centerline with support and Rebels could barely find 2 of anything that wasn't dirt cheap

3 hours ago, mobow213 said:

We had 5 ISD, one player had 3, and the other two one apiece.

Five is great! ?

11 hours ago, Admiral WigT said:

Five is great! ?

It was facing home one, mccracking and another mc80 liberty mod, and atleast 4 mc30. It was looking well for the imps

One I saw recently but unfortunately couldn't participate in had 6, each imperial had 2 in tow, with a multitude of fighters making up the remainder of their points.

In the All Out Offensive that our six-person group played last week, the Imperials came to the battle with 6 ISDII's. Avenger and Relentless were brought to the battle but Devastator had been retired with a previous fleet before the All Out Offensive. The rest of the combined Imperial fleet was 4 Gozantis, the Demolisher, and enough fighter squadrons to blot out the stars.

So many front arcs... so many fighters...

I was fighting on the side of the brave band of Rebels, and it was a feat that we managed to take out 3 Star Destroyers before the end of the game. Unfortunately we had to cut the game short before we could get to 7 rounds because the store was going to close. we could have finished. If we had been able to keep going, we maybe could have taken out one more ISDII but it would have cost us the rest of our fleet.

31 minutes ago, Derpzilla88 said:

In the All Out Offensive that our six-person group played last week, the Imperials came to the battle with 6 ISDII's. Avenger and Relentless were brought to the battle but Devastator had been retired with a previous fleet before the All Out Offensive. The rest of the combined Imperial fleet was 4 Gozantis, the Demolisher, and enough fighter squadrons to blot out the stars.

So many front arcs... so many fighters...

I was fighting on the side of the brave band of Rebels, and it was a feat that we managed to take out 3 Star Destroyers before the end of the game. Unfortunately we had to cut the game short before we could get to 7 rounds because the store was going to close before we could have finished. But at the point we ended it, we maybe could have taken out one more ISDII but it would have cost us the rest of our fleet.

What ships made up the Rebel force?

6 minutes ago, Admiral WigT said:

What ships made up the Rebel force?

Our brave band of rebels came to the battle with 1 MC80 Assault Cruiser (Home One), 1 MC80 Battle Cruiser (Mon Karren), 3 Assault Frigate MKII B's, 1 MC30 Torpedo Frigate, 1 Pelta-class Assault Ship, 2 Nebulon-B Escort Frigates, 3 CR-90A's, and 2 GR-75 transports (one of which was Bright Hope).

I will also note that we were playing with a house rule (one we all came to regret by the end of the campaign but stuck with it for consistency's sake) that each ship could only have one upgrade and one title through the entire campaign. So every ship on both sides only had a max of one upgrade and one title (if titles were taken).
We wanted to keep a more "vanilla" feel to Armada as we played the Corellian Conflict. But this ended up heavily favoring the Imperials in the long-run. Won't be using that house rule for the next campaign.

11 hours ago, Derpzilla88 said:

In the All Out Offensive that our six-person group played last week, the Imperials came to the battle with 6 ISDII's. Avenger and Relentless were brought to the battle but Devastator had been retired with a previous fleet before the All Out Offensive. The rest of the combined Imperial fleet was 4 Gozantis, the Demolisher, and enough fighter squadrons to blot out the stars.

So many front arcs... so many fighters...

10 hours ago, Derpzilla88 said:

Our brave band of rebels came to the battle with 1 MC80 Assault Cruiser (Home One), 1 MC80 Battle Cruiser (Mon Karren), 3 Assault Frigate MKII B's, 1 MC30 Torpedo Frigate, 1 Pelta-class Assault Ship, 2 Nebulon-B Escort Frigates, 3 CR-90A's, and 2 GR-75 transports (one of which was Bright Hope).

These grand fleets must have looked awesome arrayed on the table.

11 hours ago, Admiral WigT said:

These grand fleets must have looked awesome arrayed on the table.

It was a pretty impressive spread. Some of the players took pictures during the game. If I can find where they posted them, I'll see if I can get them up either here or in the Battle Reports subforum.

7 hours ago, Derpzilla88 said:

It was a pretty impressive spread. Some of the players took pictures during the game. If I can find where they posted them, I'll see if I can get them up either here or in the Battle Reports subforum.

That would be awesome!