18 hours ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:Anyone know the relative size of these things?
Judging from the trailer I'd say they are about the size of a Gozanti assault carrier (but taller)
18 hours ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:Anyone know the relative size of these things?
Judging from the trailer I'd say they are about the size of a Gozanti assault carrier (but taller)
I'm just happy we're getting a new original ship in the sequel trilogy that isn't a box or a sleekified version of an old ship.
12 hours ago, UnitOmega said:While those do obviously look thicker and bigger than the lego models, I will say all we have so far are quick shots in a trailer - which does have them staggered in a line, we don't necessarily have solid perspective on them. We all said "well, those might be epic" when the trailer hit, and how here's a different perspective that makes people re-think that idea. If they were so massive, why would the LEGO scale provide mini-figures? A Nebulon-B's listed stats is 300 meters in length and over 900 crewman - so something maybe 1/2 their size would not be crewed by like 5 guys.
As far as minifigures go, the new star destroyer only has like 6, lego has in recent years been very skimpy on figures. The black pearl only came with 7. The past Falcon we got only came with 7. The death star only comes with 24. Number of mini-figs is not a good representation of size.
And again, lego doesn't have to be in scale, it just has to look good.
5 hours ago, Odanan said:Based on the size of the turrets, it's the same size of the Ghost. Look those windows in the cockpit: you can see the pilot's head there.
Large based ship.
1st image, F/O in back ground is assaulting one of the bombers in a head on strafing run, meaning we can compare size of the two.
It's an epic size ship.
Actually, it looks maybe like the cockpit is about the size of the /FO in one of those lines. Again, assuming we have a respectable perspective, that would make the whole thing like 3-4 /FO's tall. Maybe 4-5 long. That should fit perfectly well on a large base if the Ghost works - though the ventral bits will make it stand a little tall. Of course, the Upsilon is a thing - and I'd suspect this craft would probably be set up so the front bit hangs down to about where the base is. And according to @xanderf in a frame-by-frame there's a shot where the TIE/FOs panels stick out above and below the central body - which can't make it that large, after all TIE fighters are pretty small in the game scale. And I can't recall where but I've seen people say you can see the pilot in the cockpit, that means that particular feature can't be that large.
Again, of course, perspective. The Lego is not 100% accurate, but neither are human eyes and we're staring at still captures of a moving scene. Until we get some legit concept art or can actually see them in a proper comparative scale I don't think it's right to say. It would certainly be way more interesting as a Resistance Large ship.
1 hour ago, KommanderKeldoth said:I'm just happy we're getting a new original ship in the sequel trilogy that isn't a box or a sleekified version of an old ship.
Fully agree. The transports in TFA were just awful, awful designs. So bad in fact that I hope we never see them in X-wing in any form. I enjoy this one a million times more, even if it still isn't the best looking thing in the world. It has a rugged feel, which is important for the Rebel feel, but at the same time it still has some good shape to it. It looks like a mix between a B-wing and Frigate in design, but perhaps not in size. We will see.
40 minutes ago, UnitOmega said:Actually, it looks maybe like the cockpit is about the size of the /FO in one of those lines. Again, assuming we have a respectable perspective, that would make the whole thing like 3-4 /FO's tall. Maybe 4-5 long. That should fit perfectly well on a large base if the Ghost works - though the ventral bits will make it stand a little tall. Of course, the Upsilon is a thing - and I'd suspect this craft would probably be set up so the front bit hangs down to about where the base is. And according to @xanderf in a frame-by-frame there's a shot where the TIE/FOs panels stick out above and below the central body - which can't make it that large, after all TIE fighters are pretty small in the game scale. And I can't recall where but I've seen people say you can see the pilot in the cockpit, that means that particular feature can't be that large.
Again, of course, perspective. The Lego is not 100% accurate, but neither are human eyes and we're staring at still captures of a moving scene. Until we get some legit concept art or can actually see them in a proper comparative scale I don't think it's right to say. It would certainly be way more interesting as a Resistance Large ship.
I think we're in agreement then since the Ghost is basically the size of a Gozanti assault carrier.
Another thing to keep in mind about whether this ship could be large vs. epic is the way it flies. The Ghost was put on a large base because it is depicted flying like a light freighter and pulling off some very acrobatic maneuvers. The Gozanti is basically the same size as the Ghost but is depicted as being much slower and more sluggish when maneuvering. We only have a few seconds of screen time to judge these new resistance bombers, but so far they look like they are moving more like epic ships (that is, hardly at all compared to the fighters). More footage is needed to make the call.
3 minutes ago, Kdubb said:Fully agree. The transports in TFA were just awful, awful designs. So bad in fact that I hope we never see them in X-wing in any form. I enjoy this one a million times more, even if it still isn't the best looking thing in the world. It has a rugged feel, which is important for the Rebel feel, but at the same time it still has some good shape to it. It looks like a mix between a B-wing and Frigate in design, but perhaps not in size. We will see.
I'd be down to see the Resistance Transport in X-wing. It's got a cannon slot and it would be cool (and terrifying based on their options) to finally see a three crew slot rebel ship.
Hell, I'd even fly the First Order transport if they released it with some cool mechanics to justify it being in a dog fighting game.
Both of their designs are a bit boring, but I wouldn't call them AWFUL. I actually think the K-wing and the E-wing are worse.
There's about 20 meters of difference between the Ghost and the Gozanti's length - or just under 2 X-Wings.
2 hours ago, UnitOmega said:Also torp bombers are kind of a Rebel thing. Or should be anyway.
It is also easier to attack a capital ship at range with torpedoes than it is to bomb them, especially if you are a big target like these appear to be haha. The Finalizer also has homing missile batteries for close defence, and smaller batteries for the same purpose. So probably wouldn't want to be maneuvering these things anywhere close to them. Looks like their offensive armament is all up near the cockpit, so I am figuring heavy hull and shielding for head on attacks to possibly withstand a couple hits from main turbo laser batteries while shrugging off the smaller ones easily, and speeding out using the ball and tail gunners to cover a speedy getaway from the fighters. Just my thoughts on the whole, more torps and few bomb slots or only torps/