On 5/30/2017 at 6:02 PM, EliasWindrider said:

Absol, we haven't had sufficient time to see if they will do a second round of career books within EotE, If they do do a second round of career books, then seeing repeats within the line become "plausible" again so I wouldn't have bet your board title just yet. I would instead recommend for you to put a rider on the wager that it won't happen during the first round of career books. I don't think that there will be a second round of career books, but I wouldn't bet against it just yet (engineers tend to be risk adverse, if we do an awesome job we might get a nice Shiney plaque, if we screw up, hundreds or thousands of people could die a horrible death, so on the basis of risk verse reward "betting" on things we're not sure of is generally a losing proposition, so they train engineers to be risk adverse).

Also I think the most probable repeats/reuse of an existing spec in FaD would be the force sensitive exile or emergent universal specs.

You're right, there were several assumptions I was making that I had not yet examined. So I will qualify: within the first round of career books, there will not be a repeated main career Specialization for Force and Destiny. Specifically in this instance we're discussing the Hermit being a Mystic spec as well, but that also includes any currently extant Force spec appearing in the Warrior book.

Also, repeated universal specs from another line are fine; I'm specifically saying repays within a line will not occur (during the first iteration of supplements).

There, is that caveat-you enough for you ?

What about "Spellcaster" for an asexual solution to the Witch/Warlock problem?

I mean, I think both Witch and Sorcerer are asexual enough. Lord of the Rings had the Witch King of Angmar, after all. Sure, people tend to think of witches as female, but so do people tend to assume doctors are male until proven otherwise (at least they used to; not sure if this is a thing anymore).

Personal opinion, of course, not sure how accurate it is .

I'm definitely happy with Witch, I think it's perfect but FFG may see it as too tied to the Nightsisters.

Of any term, I'd say "Sorcerer" is most likely, as there are three different groups that use the term. "Witch," by contrast, only applied to the Witches of Dathomir, which is a group that hasn't been name-dropped for several years now (the Nightsisters were a subgroup of the Witches, but canon has been treating them as the sole representation of the group).

I'm thinking the aforementioned Sorcerer, another invested or partial social spec (perhaps with Inspiring Rhetoric), and something that bridges or compliments Makashi Duelist to the others.

I'd like to do a breakdown of what I think each career now solidly represents, in comparison with the Mystic.

Yes, I agree with that analysis wholeheartedly, Blackbird. I think you and I are on the same page as to who the Mystic is.

Now let's just hope that FFG is on the same page as us .

Conjurer, Shaman, Elementalist, Elder, Vizier... I could go on for days with names.

I also agree with your analysis of Warrior, the Blood Knight to the Guardian's Knight in Shining Armor.

Think telekinetic saber combat will make an appearance? ie. being able to wield the lightsaber at a distance from yourself via the force?

Nah. Other than saber throws, which we see only rarely in the movies/shows, that never happens. I don't think that'll make an appearance. In the Mystic book, at least. Telekinesis is about the least mystical ability the Force imparts, and, frankly (in my personal opinion),the most boring.

You can augment yourself to be super-"human," peer across time and space, manipulate Fate and causality, flow with the tide of the universe such that none of your motions are ever wrong, touch the minds of those around you and link then together to allow a massive group to work in perfect harmony and achieve things they could never dream of without you, and you want to...throw big rocks without touching them? I mean, sure, it's impressive I guess, but...maybe think a little bigger?

But like I said, subtle yet immense is my favorite type of magic/super power, so I'm probably biased.

19 minutes ago, Absol197 said:

Nah. Other than saber throws, which we see only rarely in the movies/shows, that never happens. I don't think that'll make an appearance. In the Mystic book, at least. Telekinesis is about the least mystical ability the Force imparts, and, frankly (in my personal opinion),the most boring.

You can augment yourself to be super-"human," peer across time and space, manipulate Fate and causality, flow with the tide of the universe such that none of your motions are ever wrong, touch the minds of those around you and link then together to allow a massive group to work in perfect harmony and achieve things they could never dream of without you, and you want to...throw big rocks without touching them? I mean, sure, it's impressive I guess, but...maybe think a little bigger?

But like I said, subtle yet immense is my favorite type of magic/super power, so I'm probably biased.

I agree it's the less mystical, but isn't there usually a 'combat' spec per book?

Yes, there is. But I'm hoping they'll make the Mystic the exception; stop ruining my hopes and dreams with your logic !

I actually have no idea what the secondary combat spec for the Mystic is going to be. I just really hope it's not a primary lightsaber spec like Jar'Kai. Just...please no!

Just give Warrior three Lightsaber specs and we will call it a day.

15 minutes ago, Absol197 said:

Yes, there is. But I'm hoping they'll make the Mystic the exception; stop ruining my hopes and dreams with your logic !

I actually have no idea what the secondary combat spec for the Mystic is going to be. I just really hope it's not a primary lightsaber spec like Jar'Kai. Just...please no!

hey we could get a force weapon type talent: something along the lines of commit a force pip and whichever weapon you currently wield gains cortosis

We've already got that: Reinforce Item, in the Armorer spec. Commit 2 Force dice and suffer 3 strain let round to give one weapon or armor in short(?) range Cortosis.

Now, it could be repeated of course, but that's sort of one of the Armorer's signature talents, so I'd consider it unlikely.

ah didn't know don't have that book

No problem . I need to stop assuming that everyone is as nerdy and OCD as me !

1 hour ago, Absol197 said:

No problem . I need to stop assuming that everyone is as nerdy and OCD as me !

It's not nerdy it's normal!

Quick thought, the gauntlet of Kressh the younger was never destroyed, it would be cool to see it.

On 6/2/2017 at 1:54 PM, Absol197 said:

Yes, there is. But I'm hoping they'll make the Mystic the exception; stop ruining my hopes and dreams with your logic !

I actually have no idea what the secondary combat spec for the Mystic is going to be. I just really hope it's not a primary lightsaber spec like Jar'Kai. Just...please no!

Sorcerer/witch, inquisitor (combat spec)