I despise sleeving so if it's required for major tournaments that's a dealbreaker for me.
Lets talk about sleeves!
I actually wasn't realizing that there was neutral dynasty cards, this throws my plans out the window...
7 minutes ago, slowreflex said:I'm a fan of KMC Hyper Mats personally. I've tried a lot of sleeves and they are my favorite. I think that's the general opinion of professionals as well as far as I know. They aren't cheap though. I think the sleeves are worth more than LCG cards are.
Word is that the newer batches of Hyper Mats have significantly dropped in quality. The new "best of" are Ultra-Pro Eclipses.
I have to keep my sleeves rolled up because I haven't gotten a concealed carry permit for my guns.........
#crickets
7 minutes ago, Ryric said:I despise sleeving so if it's required for major tournaments that's a dealbreaker for me.
It is for FFG, and it was for AEG I believe.
12 minutes ago, slowreflex said:What I mean is let's say you have some neutral cards in a Clan deck. Then you want to play Scorpion and want to use those same neutral cards.
I never have different color sleeves for any factions.
All my cards for a given game are in one color per deck, so in case a couple games get accidentally shuffled together or knocked off the table by Arrogant Cat, they can easily be sorted back into their proper games.
1 minute ago, Gaffa said:I never have different color sleeves for any factions.
All my cards for a given game are in one color per deck, so in case a couple games get accidentally shuffled together or knocked off the table by Arrogant Cat, they can easily be sorted back into their proper games.
I think you are probably understanding me, but it doesn't sound like it, so I'll just double-check. You know there are Neutral Province and Dynasty cards that you can mix in with your clans right? It's the Neutral cards that are the issue, not the clan ones (for Province and Dynasty).
1 minute ago, slowreflex said:I think you are probably understanding me, but it doesn't sound like it, so I'll just double-check. You know there are Neutral Province and Dynasty cards that you can mix in with your clans right? It's the Neutral cards that are the issue, not the clan ones (for Province and Dynasty).
Most likely they will just define everything as "Sleeve your cards" How you choose your colors is up to you.
2 minutes ago, Mirith said:Most likely they will just define everything as "Sleeve your cards" How you choose your colors is up to you.
They will have to be a uniform color in each deck. All I'm pointing out is that if you have multiple decks, in different colors, that moving neutral cards around is going to require re-sleeving.
8 minutes ago, Mon no Oni said:Word is that the newer batches of Hyper Mats have significantly dropped in quality. The new "best of" are Ultra-Pro Eclipses.
Interesting. I'm not aware of this, but will look into it. In any case, I have about 2000 Un-used Hyper Mats, so I'm unlikely to switch. I've never had any quality issues with them, but maybe this is a new thing.
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9 minutes ago, Ryric said:I despise sleeving so if it's required for major tournaments that's a dealbreaker for me.
All Formal and Premier events require opaque sleeves. That's probably regionals and up. I doubt your store bros will care that much.
I use deck backers for l5r.
I use single card cases for things that don't shuffle like Strongholds. I'll probably use a vomit inducing neon orange for provinces (or just purple.)
20 minutes ago, Ryric said:I despise sleeving so if it's required for major tournaments that's a dealbreaker for me.
The vast majority of tournaments beyond local store level require sleeves, and this is universal from Magic to Force of Will, and even some shops require sleeves for local tournaments.
27 minutes ago, slowreflex said:What I mean is let's say you have some neutral cards in a Clan deck. Then you want to play Scorpion and want to use those same neutral cards. You'll need to change the sleeves of them. People are mentioning using certain colors for their Dynasty decks, so am just thinking maybe they haven't realized there are Neutral Province and Dynasty cards. Or maybe they don't care about re-sleeving neutral cards. Or maybe they are going to buy lots and lots of Core sets so each Clan has their own set of Neutral cards.
Either re-sleeve or use extra neutrals since you will have extras from your three core sets.
1 minute ago, Teslacrashed said:The vast majority of tournaments beyond local store level require sleeves, and this is universal from Magic to Force of Will, and even some shops require sleeves for local tournaments.
Exactly. I cringe when someone plays unsleeved. Protect your cards.
8 minutes ago, slowreflex said:They will have to be a uniform color in each deck. All I'm pointing out is that if you have multiple decks, in different colors, that moving neutral cards around is going to require re-sleeving.
That is why you make all the provinces of the same color/sleeve-type no matter which deck it is. No matter how many extra copies of provinces for Cores, I doubt that dinasty packs will have that amny extra copies.
1 minute ago, Toqtamish said:I cringe when someone plays unsleeved. Protect your cards.
I remember as a kid I didn't want to buy sleeves because I could barely afford the Magic cards. Then I spilled soda on some cards. That first time you have an accident with a spilled drink is the day you sleeve everything.
Just now, Wintersong said:That is why you make all the provinces of the same color/sleeve-type no matter which deck it is. No matter how many extra copies of provinces for Cores, I doubt that dinasty packs will have that amny extra copies.
Dynasty decks have Neutral cards too, not just Provinces.
8 minutes ago, slowreflex said:Dynasty decks have Neutral cards too, not just Provinces.
Quite sure that Province cards, unlike Holdings, do not go with your Dinasty deck. Unless I missed/misunderstood something, in which case I apologize for my mistake.![]()
I haven't played in any sort of major ccg tournament since the 90s. Heck I remember when it was illegal to sleeve cards in Magic because they enabled too much cheating. I dislike how sleeves make the deck feel when shuffling, I dislike the work of maintaining sleeved cards, I dislike how fat sleeves make a deck, and I dislike the additional expense of buying sleeves. And I say this as former Magic player that played with an unsleeved Black Lotus, Mox Emerald, and Timetwister.
It's okay, it just means I likely won't play in any tournaments at a level that requires them.
I recognize that this is a personal foible. Heck, my wife is already picking out pretty sleeves for this game.
1 minute ago, Wintersong said:Quite sure that Province cards, unlike Holdings, do not go with your Dinasty deck. Unless I missed/misunderstood something, in which case I apologize for my mistake.
There are neutral characters who could go into multiple different Dynasty decks. If you sleeve dynasty cards by clan, do you resleeve the neutrals when playing different clan decks or what?
15 minutes ago, Wintersong said:Quite sure that Province cards, unlike Holdings, do not go with your Dinasty deck. Unless I missed/misunderstood something, in which case I apologize for my mistake.
13 minutes ago, Tonbo Karasu said:There are neutral characters who could go into multiple different Dynasty decks. If you sleeve dynasty cards by clan, do you resleeve the neutrals when playing different clan decks or what?
Yes, this is what I'm trying to explain, badly.
. There seem to be some people that realize there are Neutral provinces, but don't realize that there are also Neutral cards (like characters) that go in your Dynasty deck.

Hm...I'll probably just stick with two different clan colors for each deck. For Provinces, though, I'm not sure if I'll try to find a third color for each clan, or if I should just have a single, neutral color that all my decks use. Decisions, decisions...
44 minutes ago, JJ48 said:Hm...I'll probably just stick with two different clan colors for each deck. For Provinces, though, I'm not sure if I'll try to find a third color for each clan, or if I should just have a single, neutral color that all my decks use. Decisions, decisions...
I usually do a generic color, or since sleeves usually come in packs of 50, use leftovers from another deck.
1 hour ago, slowreflex said:I think you are probably understanding me, but it doesn't sound like it, so I'll just double-check. You know there are Neutral Province and Dynasty cards that you can mix in with your clans right? It's the Neutral cards that are the issue, not the clan ones (for Province and Dynasty).
There were a lot of neutral cards in the CCG. People still often sleeved those in cards in sleeves based on the colors of the main clan that deck was built with. People do not sleeve cards based on the cards alignment. They sleeve cards based on the deck's alignment.
Resleeving was not a problem to the players who did that.
Edited by UltimatecaliburSo we know the size of the cards? I am assuming standard size (mtg size).
Just now, Spawnod said:So we know the size of the cards? I am assuming standard size (mtg size).
Yes, they will be standard CCG card size.