So looking at a superpickle MC80 assualt cruiser build. How useful have people foudn dmdage control officer above Lando or Walex Blissex?
Damage control officer
That's Meta Dependent, basically.
If your main threats are Bombers, it does nothing unless Norra is involved.
If your main threats are Demos, Lando can really be a help.
If your main threats are other ship-based attacks, Walex can be a Blissex-ing in disguise.
I think also with the Sloane Threat coming up, Walex is going to be making somewhat of a leap-to-the-front for Lynchpin ship builds like the SuperPickle...
Lando will always have his place on the smaller, faster ships that expect to only take one volley and dash away (MC30s)
1 minute ago, Drasnighta said:That's Meta Dependent, basically.
If your main threats are Bombers, it does nothing unless Norra is involved.
If your main threats are Demos, Lando can really be a help.
If your main threats are other ship-based attacks, Walex can be a Blissex-ing in disguise.I think also with the Sloane Threat coming up, Walex is going to be making somewhat of a leap-to-the-front for Lynchpin ship builds like the SuperPickle...
Lando will always have his place on the smaller, faster ships that expect to only take one volley and dash away (MC30s)
I run it on my slightly less super-super pickle (Command style, as i needed the points for other stuff). It helps a fair amount if everyone in your meta is running black dice ships like Glads and MC30s. Everyone IS here, so I get some mileage out of it. But it's often a toss-up in my mind of it or Walex. Similar points cost doesn't help much, haha.
In the upcoming Sloan-pocalypse, I can foresee Walex getting more use on my end, just like @Drasnighta.
Having faced the DCO on a super pickle, he seems to have a place on the builds that are set up to deal with bombers and double-arcing black dice ships(with Advanced Projectors and Reinforced Blast Doors). Being able to tell black crit upgrades and Norra that they don't get to trigger can help a lot.
If you're running it with Electronic Countermeasures, though, Walex is the clear favorite.
Lando is handy but it's really meta-dependent. I'd likely stick Lando on an MC30 like @Drasnighta recommended.
I have been trying to fit DCO into one of my Liberty builds along with the Endeavor title, but points have been too tight to test it out so far. I am planning on testing it out during the store championship season.
I don't run large ships without DCO anymore, period.
Everyone and his mother running Demolisher is equipped with APTs.
You could argue that DCO is necessary on a pickle rather than an ISD because of the former's weak hull.
My local meta loves DCOs. Large ships are easy targets for long range Sato hits and occasionally a pulsetap from me. DCOs shuts it down pretty quick.
I had to start bringing Intel Officers to get my pulse taps through.
I LOVE dco on my doom Pickle, it increases its survivability SO much. Those shields are useless for crits that go straight to hull, DCO stops that in its tracks.
ALSO, it's great when the opponent has Intel officered my brace on a double arc. I'll just contain and redirect, then use the brace on the next shot.
I personally will never run a large ship with a native contain without one anymore
Great on doom pickles having played a bit with it. It can do a lot of damage mitigating with Norra and APTs around.
I know you asked about the pickle, but I really like it on the interdictor with its 2 contains. Extremely useful against Nora builds. Assault Proton Torpedoes aren't getting through. Ever.
The only officer I'd take over DCO on an interdictor is Tua for ECM access.
4 hours ago, Snipafist said:Having faced the DCO on a super pickle, he seems to have a place on the builds that are set up to deal with bombers and double-arcing black dice ships(with Advanced Projectors and Reinforced Blast Doors). Being able to tell black crit upgrades and Norra that they don't get to trigger can help a lot.
If you're running it with Electronic Countermeasures, though, Walex is the clear favorite.
Lando is handy but it's really meta-dependent. I'd likely stick Lando on an MC30 like @Drasnighta recommended.
From the perspective of the guy forcing you to take those DCOs:
H9's and Jonus do work on Contain, and I've used it for such before. If you're running into accuracy tech in your meta, ECM/DCO is still a solid choice.
Damage control officer is a fantastic card IF your local meta is running a lot of APT/ACM/nasty crit effects
14 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:From the perspective of the guy forcing you to take those DCOs:
H9's and Jonus do work on Contain, and I've used it for such before. If you're running into accuracy tech in your meta, ECM/DCO is still a solid choice.
That's true, but then they're not using those accuracy icons on the brace. For black dice crit ships that's not great, as the brace will prevent more total damage than the contain will.
Granted you can on occasion (particularly with the MC30) generate two accuracy icons, in which case the contain then becomes priority #2.
Thanks for the help all