That would work too I guess.
So....Tie Aggressor with IG 2000 still theoretically works, right?
It won't.
Does not compute.
Just now, GeneralBergfrühling said:It won't.
Does not compute.
But it does for now!
Just now, joyrock said:But it does for now!
It does not
22 minutes ago, Rinzler in a Tie said:Can we just put this to bed? Even RAW rules, this doesn't stand up.
Example: Tie/x7: Tie Defender only (notice it says "Tie")
IG 2000: Aggressor only.
Now what is the ship this title for?
And this ship is called..?
And another example of FFG specifically calling out the actual ship name (or what will fit - but obvious ship name is obvious):
Or is this a big joke and I'm a sour puss?
I was going to say exactly this, but you added pictures which is so much better. TIE Aggressor is not the same as Aggressor. This is yet another case of people reading into something as they want it to say rather than what it actually says.
Please no more OMG Aggressor title posts...
2 hours ago, Zazaa said:Well we all know that it won't work!
Shhh, let the imps day dream for a few hours at least before crushing them with the reality that their faction still sucks. 
Just now, Archangelspiv said:I was going to say exactly this, but you added pictures which is so much better. TIE Aggressor is not the same as Aggressor. This is yet another case of people reading into something as they want it to say rather than what it actually says.
Please no more OMG Aggressor title posts...
What the rules actually say is simply that in order to use a ship restricted card, you have to have the full name of the title in your ship name. This is used for the TIE only stuff, and the X-Wing only stuff, and was obviously not intended, but as written, it works here.
You guys came up with much nicer ways of saying how utterly stupid this is than I would have......
5 minutes ago, Archangelspiv said:I was going to say exactly this, but you added pictures which is so much better. TIE Aggressor is not the same as Aggressor. This is yet another case of people reading into something as they want it to say rather than what it actually says.
Please no more OMG Aggressor title posts...
Actually those pictures do prove it does. Look at the TIE Mk2 Engines. They say "TIE only". So a card does not need to have the entire name to work. Technically, the IG-2000 will work on ANY ship with Aggressor in it's name. Aggressors, TIE Aggressors, a theoretical new Rebel Ship called the Aggressor Wing 5000.
So yes, RAW it totally works. Is it intended? Definitely not. But derived intention cannot be used for rules.
It will definitely be Errata'd for sure, but till then it definitely works. If you say it doesn't, then you will not be able to put Integrated Astromechs on T-70 x-wings and the Mk2 TIE engine card can't be used by any ship since there is no ship simply called "TIE".
Am I going to buy a bunch of IG-2000 cards and actually play this? No, but nobody would have any basis in the rules to say I couldn't play this.
Edited by BadMotivator1 minute ago, joyrock said:What the rules actually say is simply that in order to use a ship restricted card, you have to have the full name of the title in your ship name. This is used for the TIE only stuff, and the X-Wing only stuff, and was obviously not intended, but as written, it works here.
You must be a blast to play with....
Power nerds and rules lawyers... we don't need their type of scum here....
Just now, Archangelspiv said:You must be a blast to play with....
Power nerds and rules lawyers... we don't need their type of scum here....
I'm not supporting this, I'm mostly making a joke topic that serves the double purpose of making note of this to ensure it gets FFG's attention and gets fixed 
2 minutes ago, joyrock said:I'm not supporting this, I'm mostly making a joke topic that serves the double purpose of making note of this to ensure it gets FFG's attention and gets fixed
I'm sure they're aware as this topic was brought up when the first spoilers were released.
Just now, thatdave said:I'm sure they're aware as this topic was brought up when the first spoilers were released.
Never hurts
2 hours ago, wurms said:They will just FAQ it for Scum Only.
No way they let this fly. Well, they probably will then FAQ it just before Nationals to screw imperial players.
But the Tie Aggressor isn't an Aggressor.. it's a TIE AGGRESSOR..... I know thus has been done to death before, but really people.
8 minutes ago, thatdave said:You guys came up with much nicer ways of saying how utterly stupid this is than I would have......
Just now, boomaster said:But the Tie Aggressor isn't an Aggressor.. it's a TIE AGGRESSOR..... I know thus has been done to death before, but really people.
And it has "Aggressor" completely in its title, meaning it fits the rules for using the card, similar to TIE only or X-Wing only.
Just now, joyrock said:And it has "Aggressor" completely in its title, meaning it fits the rules for using the card, similar to TIE only or X-Wing only.
No. No it doesn't.
You want it to because there's a weird group of people on this forum that like to find anything they can to cause a storm in a tea cup and be there first to say "I told you so" when a FAQ does or doesn't come out.
2 minutes ago, boomaster said:No. No it doesn't.
You want it to because there's a weird group of people on this forum that like to find anything they can to cause a storm in a tea cup and be there first to say "I told you so" when a FAQ does or doesn't come out.
Yes, yes it does.
You don't want it to work because, quite frankly, it's dumb, but going by the rules, it does work. The only limitation for equipping a ship specific card is that you have the entirety of the required name in your title, NOT that your title match the requirement exactly. It's why the Tie Adv. Prototype can equip TIE only upgrades, but not the Tie Advanced only title.
In this thread:
People who don't understand double edge's ability (If you miss you attack with A DIFFERENT secondary)
People who don't like things that work RAW that don't gel with rules as intended and get quite grumpy when this is pointed out to them
1 minute ago, boomaster said:No. No it doesn't.
You want it to because there's a weird group of people on this forum that like to find anything they can to cause a storm in a tea cup and be there first to say "I told you so" when a FAQ does or doesn't come out.
Yes it does.
All TIE Aggressors are Aggressors, but not all Aggressors are TIE Aggressors.
This is pretty basic actually. Take a stats class and learn about Sets.
The IG-2000 title is for the set labeled Aggressor. Which is any ship with Aggressor in it's name. Just like TIE Mk2 Engines are for any ship with TIE in it's name.
Now, presumably because of a colossal goofup, the TIE Aggressor is in the Aggressor Set. Thus it is qualified for anything that specifies Aggressor.
Is it intended? No.
Is it currently perfectly legal to put the IG-2000 title on a TIE Aggressor? Yes.
1 minute ago, nigeltastic said:In this thread:
People who don't understand double edge's ability (If you miss you attack with A DIFFERENT secondary)
People who don't like things that work RAW that don't gel with rules as intended and get quite grumpy when this is pointed out to them
What I'm wondering if you can just normal attack with double edge if you miss with your first secondary since it just says weapon and not secondary weapon.
Just now, Oberron said:
What I'm wondering if you can just normal attack with double edge if you miss with your first secondary since it just says weapon and not secondary weapon.
Seems so assuming "primary weapon" counts as a weapon which I don't know why it wouldn't. May be another day 1 FAQ either to clarify that or to adjust that to be only making a 'double tap' with a secondary.
I'm making a vow right now to stay out of......misguided (I'll say in an attempt to be as nice as some of the other non-'utterly stupid' comments).....threads like these. Don't comment, don't check back on them, do not feed the trolls in any way whatsoever. With that I am out.
Just now, nigeltastic said:Seems so assuming "primary weapon" counts as a weapon which I don't know why it wouldn't. May be another day 1 FAQ either to clarify that or to adjust that to be only making a 'double tap' with a secondary.
Hope so or else Double edge isn't to fantastic without investing more points into him. IF there was a torp slot he would be awesome with flechette torps since that don't even need to hit.
1 minute ago, thatdave said:I'm making a vow right now to stay out of......misguided (I'll say in an attempt to be as nice as some of the other non-'utterly stupid' comments).....threads like these. Don't comment, don't check back on them, do not feed the trolls in any way whatsoever. With that I am out.
Nobody here is trolling, though.