Claim and after effects

By NetCop, in Star Wars: Destiny

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If I claim this battlefield and play a support with "after claim" ability does that ability triggers?

I.e. these supports:

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If I play a yellow card by "claim effect" from Imperial Armory, can I use Infamous to give that card Ambush keyword and trigger Han's ability?

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Same battlefield but I play a weapon on FN-2199. Does his ability triggers or not?

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All these are "after" or "before" abilities that happened in the same action.

Edited by NetCop

No. Yes. Yes.

No. You've already claimed the battlefield to play the card so playing a card which triggers after claiming has missed it's trigger.

Yes you can exhaust infamous to get ambush and give han a shield - but dont get the action.

Yes, nines ability is not an action so playing a weapon on him lets you roll and resolve it

you can certainly use infamous to give it ambush for an extra action, but after you claim all following actions must be "pass"

That is right the "after" word means that you means the trigger.

Here is something people seem to be glossing over.

After and Before denote the timing of the effects resolution, not the timing of the trigger for the ability.

An ability that says "after you claim" doesn't trigger after you claim, it triggers on claim, is added to the queue, and resolves after you finish resolving the triggering condition.

Edited by ScottieATF

Wow, I have to say I didn't see how powerful Nines was... his ability actually doesn't give you a choice - you are forced to roll the die out, and nothing can stop you rolling, and then he immediately resolves it before anything else triggers, and it doesn't even count as an action. That's crazy!

Edited by Kieransi

Can someone walk me through the Docking Bay interaction with Outmaneuver/Planetary Uprising? We've played it that you *can* trigger the effect of the support cards after playing them with Docking Bay's claim ability, since they aren't actions.

8 minutes ago, sionnach19 said:

Can someone walk me through the Docking Bay interaction with Outmaneuver/Planetary Uprising? We've played it that you *can* trigger the effect of the support cards after playing them with Docking Bay's claim ability, since they aren't actions.

Claim the battlefield. Battlefield effect goes in the queue. Any thing else that triggers from a claim and is already in play also goes into the queue. Resolve the queue, one effect at a time, FIFO. The supports you play as a consequence of claiming the battlefield won't be in play to trigger when you claim.

8 hours ago, WonderWAAAGH said:

Claim the battlefield. Battlefield effect goes in the queue. Any thing else that triggers from a claim and is already in play also goes into the queue. Resolve the queue, one effect at a time, FIFO. The supports you play as a consequence of claiming the battlefield won't be in play to trigger when you claim.

I always thought claim meant the act of claiming as well as the use of the battlefield ability. The rules reference says "when a player claims the battlefield, they may use it's claim ability." This doesn't specify timing, and says "when" so I figure these are concurrent and contained within the atomic thing that is "claiming".

This is why I always thought Planetary Uprising could be triggered because the claim is still occurring when it's in play.

There would have been the opportunity for the RR to say "after a player claims, they may use it's claim ability" if they meant to say that it goes into the queue and resolves after the "claim" (assuming claim and claim ability are seperate)

I believe its the same as Mon Mothma's ability which triggers when a card is played, and is an after effect. When is the card considered played? Is playing a card an atomic event which includes the resolution of that card? Are they simultaneous? An example could be playing Hit and Run to activate Leia while Mothma has Wingman. Does Wingman and Mothma's ability enter the queue simultaneously even though they practically speaking don't happen at the same time? (One happens when leia is activated and the other happens when Hit and Run is "played")

Edited by IronChief
Added an example

Thank you guys for the clarification.

17 hours ago, Kieransi said:

the words "may" or "if" are nowhere in his ability

That's just not true.