sorry if this has been asked and answered but I was curious if FFG have put out the stats of characters from the movies anywhere? Whilst I wouldn't want to use them (and certainly not play them) but I'd be very curious to see how the developers felt about the skills and abilities and so on of Han, Boba, Jabba and the gang. Can anyone point me towards a source I'm overlooking?

if they haven't been officially stated, are there any official sources you guys can recommend?

thanks in advance!

Nothing official. Lando and Lobot appear in the Jewel of Yavin, but even then it explicitly states that those are abridged stats and not final. Vader is sort of in one adventure with the stats of "fight him and you lose" type of stuff.

Personally I find it better to not have story characters have stats. Because A) "If it has stats, we can kill it" - Arnold. And B) Too many enthusiastic fans mistake plot armor for ultra abilities. Combined with the one-upsmanship of the old EU novels and the movie characters would all be 1500+XP.

Captain Phasma makes an appearance in TFA box set. I understand that Lando appears somewhere in a published adventure (Jewel of Yavin, I think)?

The Captain's stats were pretty underwhelming... but she was pretty inneffectual in the movie, too.

2 hours ago, Ahrimon said:

Personally I find it better to not have story characters have stats. Because A) "If it has stats, we can kill it" - Arnold. And B) Too many enthusiastic fans mistake plot armor for ultra abilities. Combined with the one-upsmanship of the old EU novels and the movie characters would all be 1500+XP.

A) agreed, but this again is a curiosity thing. I am not planning on introducing or using them but I am interested to see, again, how the game creators interpret and translate their own rules.

B) again, agreed.

2 hours ago, Edgehawk said:

Captain Phasma makes an appearance in TFA box set. I understand that Lando appears somewhere in a published adventure (Jewel of Yavin, I think)?

The Captain's stats were pretty underwhelming... but she was pretty inneffectual in the movie, too.

Ha, totally agree. I have the TFA box set (but have never cracked it open), will take a peek.

Thanks!

They have stated that they didnt want to do this, it's easy enough to stat an npc in the game , and if you want to stat them out go ahead, its whatever is needed for your group. So if you want Vader in your game and stats are important then feel free, problem is you never get people to agree , Given Vader was strong would you give him a 5 or a 6 , 6 is the same as Rancor strength, but is also quite doable by characters, so do you give him a 7, personally I dont know, nor do I care as my PCs might never even see Vader, but when they do I might only have him as a plot device and not even need to stat him out.

Yeah Lando and Lobot are the most prominent examples I can think of, and they're statted with a heavy disclaimer.

"This profile represents Lando in his role as socialite and administrator as that is the role he's expected to play in this adventure; a full profile of Lando Calrissian is beyond the scope of The Jewel of Yavin."

8 hours ago, MonkeyInSpace said:

A) agreed, but this again is a curiosity thing. I am not planning on introducing or using them but I am interested to see, again, how the game creators interpret and translate their own rules.

Their rules aren't designed to simulate the Star Wars universe, though- they're designed to produce Star Warsy narratives. Hence why Vader is 'fight him and lose', and why Lando is given stats specific to the type of encounter you'd find him in. There is no 'official' way to interpret the main characters in this context.

19 hours ago, syrath said:

They have stated that they didnt want to do this,

Fair enough.

17 hours ago, Talkie Toaster said:

Their rules aren't designed to simulate the Star Wars universe, though- they're designed to produce Star Warsy narratives. Hence why Vader is 'fight him and lose', and why Lando is given stats specific to the type of encounter you'd find him in. There is no 'official' way to interpret the main characters in this context.

I probably am not being clear enough, this is really more of a curiosity thing - given how the characters appear and act throughout the movies, what skills and specializations would the game developers think they would have.

Either way, seems like I got my answer, thanks all.

FFG will never give full stats on 'iconic' NPC's for one simple reason: If you stat it, they will kill it. No matter what stats you give, say, Boba Fett, some fool is going to try to kill him.

It would be too hard to map out individuals since the careers and specialisations are derived from classic elements of each character. Characters like Vader, Luke and Palpatine may have developed many skills and talents over the films, far too many to capture with a single stat write up. You would have to resort to a "snapshot" of the character at a point in time. In this way you might be able to capture the feel of a character -- the stylised or classic elements -- that make the character unique, e.g. Vader's armour, his piloting ability, force strength lightsaber skils. But this once again would be relative to a point in time or "era".

Also, seeing the characters in terms of mechanical stats may not meet the expectations of many fans. The community may interpret Vader as having Brawn 6, but then it begs the question: is he as strong as a Rancor?

Finally, story characters are built narratively, not mechanically, so they will never translate exactly into the FFG. Some consolations would have to be made.

If you're interested, I did map out Vader as a snapshot and our gaming group thought it was a good, classic, representation.

Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith

BR 3 (6), AG 2 (3), IN 4, CN 3, WP 5, PR 5

WT 25, ST 30 -----OR----- WT 18, ST 20 to be more accurate to the films

Soak 6 (8 with armour), Def 2 (With armour)

Weapons : Lightsaber: Dam 10, engaged, Crit 1, Breach 1, Sunder, Vicious 3, Superior Weapon

Custom Armour : Soak 2, Def 2, Cortosis, Brawn +2, Resolve 2, breath mask and respirator (all included in profile)

Cybernetics : Legs (+1 Agility), Arms (+1 Brawn) (all included in profile)

Transport : Super Star Destroyer (The Executor) , Lambda Class shuttle.

Adversary 3. Force Rating 6. Dark Side Morality : 90.

Skills : Cool 3, Coercion 4, Discipline 3, Lightsaber 5, Mechanics 4, Perception 3, Piloting (Space, Planetary) 5, Vigilance 3.

Talents : Parry 7, Reflect 7, Improve Reflect/Parry, Superior Reflect/Parry, Confidence 3. Also consider: Intuitive Evasion 3, Intuitive Strike 3, and Exhaust Port.

Force Powers : Enhance (All powers except Leap), Move (S4, M3, All Control Powers), Bind (All powers), Sense (All powers).

Signature Ability : Vader may take more than one action per turn . Each additional action costs 2 strain. Max 3 users per turn.