Can an infiltrating cylon pilot a viper? I say no, but friend doesn't see that he can't and wants to do it.
When a player is executed do they still get a crisis card at the end of the turn they die? Again, friend says no and I say he has a new character immediately and so his turn finishes as normal.
I can't say much about rules in Pegasus, because I don't have it, but I belive that in order to pilot a viper you need to have viper piloting token with your chosen character. Eg. in base game only 4 characters can pilot: 3 pilots and "Helo" Aghaton.
Hope that helps 
D.
For the vipers, unless you have a viper "token" you can't pilot a viper. So cylon leaders can't pilot, and even a pilot that becomes a sympathetic cylon also can't, because they are no longer the old character.
As far as the crisis card, we had this come up and I can't remember ever seeing anywhere in the rules where it states the current player's turn ends, only that if they are still human they discard their hands, choose a new character, and place them on the board. So we rules that, yes, we do still resolve a crisis card on that turn (this happened when a player in the Brig gave the President an EO, which was used to execute prisoner). However, if the executed character in question was a cylon, then it is treated as a "reveal," so no crisis card would be drawn.
If I am wrong, I would love to be corrected.
Cylons capable of infiltrating cannot pilot vipers; only a few characters are capable of piloting vipers, and they're all humans. When you're a cylon leader, or a sympathizer infiltrating, you do not have a pilot token by nature (in the case of cylon leaders) and you do not retain characteristics of your character card, including piloting ability (in the case of a sympathizer).
JerusalemJones said:
As far as the crisis card, we had this come up and I can't remember ever seeing anywhere in the rules where it states the current player's turn ends, only that if they are still human they discard their hands, choose a new character, and place them on the board. So we rules that, yes, we do still resolve a crisis card on that turn (this happened when a player in the Brig gave the President an EO, which was used to execute prisoner). However, if the executed character in question was a cylon, then it is treated as a "reveal," so no crisis card would be drawn.
If I am wrong, I would love to be corrected.
This is how I read it also.
As for infiltrators piloting, I totally understand for the Cylon Leaders since they do not have pilot tokens, but if I'm a pilot character who gets the sympathizer card & then infiltrate, am I really not allowed to pilot? I don't recall that they lose their pilot token, and what Sinis said, "you lose your characteristics on your character card like piloting ability", would that even matter? You don't need the piloting characteristic to pilot, do you? aka Helo?
I'll have to go through the rules again tonight to see if I can find any evidence either way. There totally could be rules against this, I just don't recall them right now if so.
Can anyone find a place in the rules that disallows this? I will look also.
A sympathetic cylon cannot pilot a viper. It isn't having a pilot token which allows you to pilot, it's having piloting in your skill set (base set p. 26). A sympathetic cylon does not have a skill set (Pegasus p. 18). No skill set = no piloting.
James McMurray said:
A sympathetic cylon cannot pilot a viper. It isn't having a pilot token which allows you to pilot, it's having piloting in your skill set (base set p. 26). A sympathetic cylon does not have a skill set (Pegasus p. 18). No skill set = no piloting.
Ok, awesome. You are correct. Thanks for looking that up!
So all they have to do is come out with a cylon leader that has Piloting in their skill set. That would probably be the 8's.
Mattr0polis said:
You don't need the piloting characteristic to pilot, do you? aka Helo?
Actually Helo does have the piloting skill.
D.
Dheran said:
Mattr0polis said:
You don't need the piloting characteristic to pilot, do you? aka Helo?
Actually Helo does have the piloting skill.
D.
Which is exactly what he was saying ("piloting characteristic" is different than "piloting skill").