I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for how long it might take to move between the various cities in the Empire. I don't need an exact formula or detailed system. I'm very happy to move things along "at the speed of plot"as they say, but I little bit of information for overall campaign timekeeping would be nice.

Specifically, I'm starting my players in Aldorf where a wealthy patron sends them by coach to Ubersreik to conduct some business, leading into "An Eye for an Eye". Taking a quick look at the maps it looks like it's a bit over one hundred miles (maybe a bit more), and I imagine it's a well traveled route with coaching inns along the way, but I've no idea haw many days (or weeks?) it should take.

It's not terribly important as I'll be handwaving the journey to get the ball rolling in Ubersreik, but any thoughts or advice are welcome.

In the old TEW campaign there are some lists about daily travel. I won`t repeat it here but give you some examples

Daily movement rates

Coach & cardt 30 miles by road

riding horse 40 miles by road, 30 miles off road

wagon 15 miles by road

rowing boat* 20 miles

small sailing boat* 30 miles

sailing ship 40 miles*

*add 25% to a vessel`s speed moving upstream, and substract 25% if moving downstream

All rates include sufficient stops along the way during an 8 hour journey.

Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks very much.

I found this article on wiki, which might help give you some ideas as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_the_Middle_Ages#Transportation

CHeers

Maybe this is useful to anyone, although Übersreik isn't mentioned. I cannot remember who made this list, but it wasn't me...

Altdorf – Averheim: 410 miles River (Upstream River Reik/River Aver)
Altdorf – Bechafen: 490 miles River (Upstream River Talabec)
Altdorf – Bögenhafen: 80 miles River (Upstream Weissbruck Canal/River Bögen)
Altdorf – Bögenhafen: 85 miles Road (Bögenhafen Road)
Altdorf – Carroburg: 80 miles River (Downstream River Reik)
Altdorf – Carroburg: 150 miles Road (Carroburg/Middenheim-Altdorf Road – 50 miles from Altdorf, 100 miles from Carroburg)
Altdorf – Delberz: 150 miles Road (Middenheim-Altdorf Road)
Altdorf – Eicheschatten (Mootland): 610 miles River/Road (Upstream River Reik/River Aver/Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road)
Altdorf – Fortenhaf: 660 miles River (Upstream River Talabec/Upstream River Upper Talabec)
Altdorf – Grenzstadt (Black Fire Pass): 585 miles River (Upstream River Reik/River Upper Reik)
Altdorf – Helmgart (Axe Bite Pass): 160 miles River/Road (Upstream Weissbruck Canal/River Bögen/Axe Bite Road)
Altdorf – Helmgart (Axe Bite Pass): 165 miles Road (Bögenhafen Road/Axe Bite Road)
Altdorf – Hergig: 290 miles River (Upstream River Talabec/River Wolf’s Run)
Altdorf – Kemperbad: 120 miles River (Upstream River Reik)
Altdoft – Kreutzhofen (Winter’s Teeth & Montdidier Passes): 600 miles River (Upstream River Reik/River Söll)
Altdorf – Marienburg: 310 miles River (Dowstream River Reik)
Altdorf – Middenheim: 220 miles Road (Middenheim-Altdorf Road)
Altdoft – Nuln: 210 miles River (Upstream River Reik)
Altdoft – Pfeildorf: 285 miles River (Upstream River Reik)
Altdorf – Salzenmund: 330 miles Road (Erengrad-Middenheim Road)
Altdorf – Salkalten: 480 miles Road (Erengrad-Middenheim Road)
Altdorf – Sauerapfel (Mootland): 510 miles River (Upstream River Reik/River Aver)
Altdorf – Talabheim: 220 miles River (Upstream River Talabec)
Altdorf – Wolfenburg: 370 miles River (Upstream River Talabec/River Wolf’s Run)
Altdorf – Wurtbad: 330 miles River (Upstream River Reik/River Stir)

Averheim – Grenzstadt (Black Fire Pass): 160 miles Road (Old Dwarf Road)
Averheim – Eicheschatten (Mootland): 195 miles Road (Moot Road/Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road)
Averheim – Kreutzhofen (Winter’s Teeth & montdidier Passes): 385 miles Road/River (Old Dwarf Road/Agbeiten-Heideck Road/Sudenland Road 270 miles/Upstream River Söll 115 miles)
Averheim – Nuln: 200 miles River (Downstream River Aver)
Averheim – Pfeildorf: 310 miles Road (Old Dwarf Road/Colmfähre-Wuppertal-Loningbruck-Agbeiten-Heideck Road)
Averheim – Pfeildorf: 310 miles Road/River (Agbeiten-Heideck Road/Old Dwarf Road 110 miles/Downstream River Upper Reik 200 miles)
Averheim – Sauerapfel (Mootland): 100 miles River (Upstream River Aver)
Averheim – Sauerapfel (Mootland): 145 miles Road (Moot Road/Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road)
Averheim – Wurtbad: 120 miles Road (Old Dwarf Road)

Bechafen – Altdorf: 490 miles River (Downstream River Talabec)
Bechafen – Fortenhaf: 170 miles River (Upstream River Upper Talabec)
Bechafen – Hergig: 265 miles River (Downstream River Talabec 245 miles/Upstream River Wolf’s Run 20 miles)
Bechafen – Talabheim: 270 miles River (Downstream River Talabec)
Bechafen – Wurtbad: 300 Miles Road/River (Taalweg Road 150 miles/Downstream River Stir 150 miles)

Bögenhafen – Altdorf: 80 miles River (Downstream River Bögen/Weissbruck Canal)
Bögenhafen – Altdorf: 85 miles Road (Bögenhafen Road)
Bögenhafen – Carroburg: 100 miles River (Downstream River Bögen)
Bögenhafen – Helmgart (Axe Bite Pass): 80 miles Road (Bögenhafen Road/Axe Bite Road)
Bögenhafen – Nuln: 240 miles Road (Bögenhafen-Übersreik-Stimmigen-Dunkelburg-Nuln Road)

Carroburg – Altdorf: 80 miles River (Upstream River Reik)
Carroburg – Altdorf: 150 miles Road (Carroburg/Middenheim-Altdorf Road – 50 miles from Altdorf, 100 miles from Carroburg)
Carroburg – Bögenhafen: 100 miles River (Upstream River Bögen)
Carroburg – Delberz: 200 miles Road (Carroburg/Middenheim-Altdorf Road)
Carroburg – Marienburg: 230 miles River (Dowstream River Reik)

Delberz – Altdorf: 150 miles Road (Middenheim-Altdorf Road)
Delberz – Carroburg: 200 miles Road (Carroburg/Middenheim-Altdorf Road)
Delberz – Middenheim: 70 miles Road (Middenheim-Altdorf Road)

Eicheschatten (Mootland) – Averheim: 195 miles Road (Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road/Moot Road/Old Dwarf Road)
Eicheschatten (Mootland) – Sauerapfel (Mootland): 100 miles Road (Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road)
Eicheschatten (Mootland) – Wurtbad: 275 miles Road (Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road/Moot Road/Old Dwarf Road)

Fortenhaf – Bechafen: 170 miles River (Downstream River Upper Talabec)

Grenzstadt (Black Fire Pass) – Averheim: 160 miles Road (Old Dwarf Road)
Grenzstadt (Black Fire Pass) – Kreutzhofen (Winter’s Teeth & Montdidier Passes): 315 miles River/Road/River (Downstream River Upper Reik 100 miles/Sudenland Road 100 miles/Upstream River Söll)
Grenzstadt (Black Fire Pass) – Pfeildorf: 300 miles River (Downstream River Upper Reik)

Helmgart (Axe Bite Pass) – Bögenhafen: 80 miles Road (Bögenhafen Road/Axe Bite Road)

Hergig – Bechafen: 265 miles River (Downstream River Wolf’s Run 20 miles/Upstream River Talabec 245 miles)
Hergig – Middenheim: 330 miles Road (Hergig New Road/Old Forest Road)
Hergig – Talabheim: 70 miles Road (Hergig New Road/Old Forest Road)
Hergig – Talabheim: 70 miles River (Downstream River Wolf’s Run/River Talabec)
Hergig – Wolfenburg: 100 miles River (Upstream River Wolf’s Run)

Kemperbad – Altdorf: 120 miles River (Downstream River Reik)
Kemperbad – Nuln: 90 miles River (Upstream River Reik)
Kemperbad – Wurtbad: 210 miles River (Upstream River Stir)

Kreutzhofen (Winter’s Teeth & montdidier Passes) – Averheim: 385 miles River/Road (Downstream River Söll 115 miles/Sudenland Road/Agbeiten-Heidack RoadOld Dwarf Road 270 miles)
Kreutzhofen (Winter’s Teeth & Montdidier Passes) – Grenzstadt (Black Fire Pass): 315 miles River/Road/River (Downstream River Söll 115 miles/Sudenland Road 100 miles/Upstream River Upper Reik 100 miles)
Kreutzhofen (Winter’s Teeth & Montdidier Passes) – Pfeildorf: 315 miles River (Downstream River Söll)

Marienburg – Carroburg: 230 miles River (Upstream River Reik)
Marienburg – Middenheim: 300 miles Road (Great North Road)

Middenheim – Altdorf: 220 miles Road (Middenheim-Altdorf Road)
Middenheim – Delberz: 70 miles Road (Middenheim-Altdorf Road)
Middenheim – Hergig: 330 miles Road (Old Forest Road/Hergig New Road)
Middenheim – Marienburg: 300 miles Road (Great North Road)
Middenheim – Salzenmund: 110 miles Road (Erengrad-Middenheim Road)
Middenheim – Talabheim: 300 miles Road (Old Forest Road)
Middenheim – Wolfenburg: 280 miles Road (Old Forest Road/Middle Mountains Road)

Nuln – Altdorf: 210 miles River (Downstream River Reik)
Nuln – Averheim: 200 miles River (Upstream River Aver)
Nuln – Averheim: 170 miles Road (Moot Road/Old Dwarf Road)
Nuln – Eicheschatten (Mootland): 325 miles Road (Moot Road/Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road)
Nuln – Kemperbad: 90 miles River (Downstream River Reik)
Nuln – Pfeildorf: 75 miles River (Upstream River Reik)
Nuln – Sauerapfel (Mootland): 275 miles Road (Moot Road/Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road)
Nuln – Wurtbad: 250 miles Road (Moot Road/Old Dwarf Road)

Pfeildorf – Averheim: 310 miles Road (Colmfähre-Wuppertal-Loningbruck-Agbeiten-Heideck Road/Old Dwarf Road)
Pfeildorf – Averheim: 310 miles River/Road (Upstream River Upper Reik 200 miles/Agbeiten-Heideck Road/Old Dwarf Road 110 miles)
Pfeildorf – Grenzstadt (Black Fire Pass): 300 miles River (Upstream River Upper Reik)
Pfeildorf – Kreutzhofen (Winter’s Teeth & Montdidier Passes): 315 miles River (Upstream River Söll)
Pfeildorf – Nuln: 75 miles River (Downstream River Reik)

Salzenmund – Middenheim: 110 miles Road (Erengrad-Middenheim Road)
Salzenmund – Salkalten: 150 miles Road (Erengrad-Middenheim Road)
Salzenmund – Wolfenburg: 300 miles Road (Erengrad-Middenheim Road/North Spur)

Salkalten – Salzenmund: 150 miles Road (Erengrad-Middenheim Road)
Salkalten – Wolfenburg: 150 miles Road (North Spur)

Sauerapfel (Mootland) – Averheim: 100 miles River (Downstream River Aver)
Sauerapfel (Mootland) – Averheim: 145 miles Road (Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road/Moot Road)
Sauerapfel (Mootland) – Eicheschatten (Mootland): 100 miles Road (Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road)
Sauerapfel (Mootland) – Nuln: 275 miles Road (Moot Road/Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road)
Sauerapfel (Mootland) – Wurtbad: 225 miles Road (Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road/Moot Road/Old Dwarf Road)

Talabheim – Altdorf: 220 miles River (Downstream River Talabec)
Talabheim – Bechafen: 270 miles River (Upstream River Talabec)
Talabheim – Hergig: 70 miles Road (Old Forest Road/Hergig New Road)
Talabheim – Hergig: 70 miles River (Upstream River Talabec/River Wolf’s Run)
Talabheim – Middenheim: 300 miles Road (Old Forest Road)
Talabheim – Wolfenburg: 150 miles River (Upstream River Talabec/River Wolf’s Run)
Talabheim – Wurtbad: 140 miles Road (Old Dwarf Road)

Wolfenburg – Bechafen: 370 miles River (Downstream River Wolf’s Run 125 miles/Upstream River Talabec 245 miles)
Wolfenburg – Hergig: 100 miles River (Downstream River Wolf’s Run)
Wolfenburg – Middenheim: 280 miles Road (Middle Mountains Road/Old Forest Road)
Wolfenburg – Salkalten: 150 miles Road (North Spur)
Wolfenburg – Salzenmund: 300 miles Road (North Spur/Erengrad-Middenheim Road)

Wurtbad – Averheim: 120 miles Road (Old Dwarf Road)
Wurtbad – Bechafen: 300 Miles River/Road (Upstream River Stir 150 miles/Taalweg Road 150 miles)
Wurtbad – Eicheschatten (Mootland): 275 miles Road (Old Dwarf Road/Moot Road/Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road)
Wurtbad – Kemperbad: 210 miles River (Downstream River Stir)
Wurtbad – Nuln: 250 miles Road (Old Dwarf Road/Moot Road)
Wurtbad – Sauerapfel (Mootland): 225 miles Road (Old Dwarf Road/Moot Road/Sauerapfel-Eicheschatten Road)
Wurtbad – Talabheim: 140 miles Road (Old Dwarf Road)

And thanks to both of you as well. These will be useful references.

Looking at the maps a little closer, and checking a few of the fan made ones around the web, I'm guessing Ubersreik is about 200 miles, give or take, from Altdorf. I think I'll have the trip last about a week and a half to two weeks, depending on how much flavor I want to add to the description. Bad weather, broken axles, missing a coach one day or the coaches not running that day, a few days spent in Bogenhafen, etc. It also gives me room to throw in an encounter or two if I feel like it's needed for the pacing.

thank you for the answer. Just a stupid question : what is the day travel rate by feet?

Allavandrel said:

Mine - But I dont have it on my site (just posted few times when needed). I'm actually doing new list of movement with some variations based on the various elements. But it is on going project still. The lenght between places are the biggest problem, because that has changed between editions. These are somewhere between WFRP1 and WFRP2. I was actually waiting for the first draft of Andy "Hapimeses" Law Empire map for those...

zuzul said:

In the wiki I found it says around 15 miles per day. 'a group of people with carts and followers on foot'