Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:

But I will say that it definitely doesn't help his case. I'm "confident" in those voting for him. If he was Imp I think the rebs might have jumped on it and hammered him, no?

I would think probably so... but I could also see how that could tip their hand if he were Imperial. I don't have enough experience with the forum version of this game to evaluate the options well in the context of the forum rules.

1 hour ago, Ardaedhel said:

Pfft... you people with your social lives outside the internets...

Yep! And as far as life outside the big 'I' is concerned, I'm off to bed, so please don't be suspicious of my silence for the ensuing 9 or so hours.

1 hour ago, NobodyInParticular said:

Yep! And as far as life outside the big 'I' is concerned, I'm off to bed, so please don't be suspicious of my silence for the ensuing 9 or so hours.

2 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

I'd be interested to see @DabDarklighter 's response to Mad's plan. Clearly you won't be in favor of the alternative, but what do you think of the idea as presented? Alternatives that could help your case?

Until I'm convinced (which, I'll be honest, I'm pretty far from it right now), my vote stays on taking care of the Dab threat immediately.

So if I get Mad's plan right, I have to watch him and report what I saw in the morning? This either gives us the rebels, or forces the rebels to kill me to avoid being revealed.

So really the only difference I see is that we could vote today for someone else today if we so choose. So if we go with Mad's Plan (is it a Mad plan?)

A. We vote for one of the other 3 players. Assuming 2 of them are rebels, that is a 67% chance we get one of them (also assuming everything else we are assuming). They kill an Imperial overnight, leaving us at either 5/2 (for three rebels) or 6/1 (for 2 rebels)
B. We don't vote for anyone and lose a loyalist overnight, getting us to either 5/3 or 6/2.

Either way you would know my loyalty tomorrow.

I think the only way his plan makes sense is if you can be sure you have someone else dead to rights as a rebel; the 5 - 3 possibility above isn't too pretty.

5 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

This is REALLY suspicious guys...

You know how I formatted my designation...

I'm glad someone else was Watching and saw something out of place.

2 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

(and Dab, I know you said you're afk for a bit)

Thanks for that.

1 minute ago, DabDarklighter said:

I think the only way his plan makes sense is if you can be sure you have someone else dead to rights as a rebel; the 5 - 3 possibility above isn't too pretty.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want you to straight up kill me, but if we come to the end of the day and you don't have another Rebel to eliminate, I don't see that you have any other choice that makes sense.

6 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

So there were 11 players at start 8-9 imps.

Ovin, Not a BG
Odin 1406 (No rank, my bad)

Mad claiming 1402
Unnamed dead was 1403
Cninj claiming 1405
Tirion unclaimed
Ard unclaimed
Gink unclaimed
Dab, claiming not a BG

Nobody, Broba and Giled

So if anyone is 1408, claim now. If you are, Dab is likely lying.

I've got my eyes on this one. I'm wondering if this was just an information troll.

How bout everyone gives out their designations.

Everyone except Ard.

Because I know his.

6 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

How bout everyone gives out their designations.

Everyone except Ard.

Because I know his.

ISB - 021

4 hours ago, DabDarklighter said:

ISB - 021

.....................................

6 hours ago, Madaghmire said:

How bout everyone gives out their designations.

Everyone except Ard.

Because I know his.

This is a very bad idea. There is a reason why Gink didn't call for a mass claim it would either be a) very suspicipus or b) very dumb because it is quite obvious now that for this imperial base power roles are linked to designations.

Having all the designations on the table does nothing for us loyal imperials unless there is a pattern, which Gink fished for but didnt get. Beyond that, forcing to give designations will just end up painting a target on them like what happened with Mad.

I almost questioned ginks logic until i sat and thought about it for a bit.

Broba. Thats not as true as it was. Not mass claiming is to ensure the cop or other role has anonimity. Mad has been forcing into the open.

How are imp roles based on designation. Explain.

2 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Broba. Thats not as true as it was. Not mass claiming is to ensure the cop or other role has anonimity. Mad has been forcing into the open.

How are imp roles based on designation. Explain.

Lt and his subordinate officer = cop

ISB Agent = Watcher

Trooper = vanilla townie

So far the thematic designations and roles seem to line up logically.

We still have at least a few potential roles that I wouldn't want disclosed, unless we are running extremely role light. If you think that is unwarranted that is fine, but that was my logic.

Mad, does your ability allow you to discover roles, or just binary "rebel or loyal"? Ie, if Dab is in fact loyal, can we use his watcher ability to set up a kind of Follow The Cop Lite to try to protect you, and use you to suss out any unique Rebel roles?

10 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Mad, does your ability allow you to discover roles, or just binary "rebel or loyal"? Ie, if Dab is in fact loyal, can we use his watcher ability to set up a kind of Follow The Cop Lite to try to protect you, and use you to suss out any unique Rebel roles?

It allows me to find out all the things.

And also isnt what you just said my the plan i proposed earlier?

Godammnit that "my the" is gonna ******* bother me

Okay. Okay. So then knowing what you know, I'm on board with the plan.

Dab watches you.

You investigate.

Dab is almost definitely going to die, but it buys us a round of the cop living, which is big. I think it's a worthwhile trade to let Dab die to learn one, possibly two (if you find one) rebel identities.

Sorry Dab. For The Empire!

## unvote Caribbean Ninja, sorry was behind on that.

So should we try to hammer another...? or wait this night?

5 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

So should we try to hammer another...? or wait this night?

Got anyone you feel good about hammering?

No, sadly.

I'm going to assume that Dabs will do what he has pledged. If he doesn't, then at least we'll have one rebel out.

That means we have:

Me (of course)

@Madaghmire

@Ardaedhel

@Tirion

@DabDarklighter

as hopeful imps.

That leaves:

@GiledPallaeon

@BrobaFett

@NobodyInParticular

@Ginkapo

as suspects.

I will say im still far from sold on dab, but the upside he presents means we should leave him be.

Maybe Broba? I'd roll the dice on Broba. How do people feel about rolling the dice on Broba?

I feel better about gambling against NIP than Bro, but I think both of them are certainly suspect. I haven't seen a solid role defense or any kind of insider knowledge out of either of them. I'd probably be willing to go for either one.

##Vote nobodyinparticular

@NobodyInParticular , what do you have to say for yourself?