I've been utterly silent???

2 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

All of this hinges on Mads being Imp, but if he guessed at his designation, that was an awesome guess.

He cleared Ard.

Tirion knew the Designation convention.

I will say that Dabs' not knowing why I'm clearly an Imp is disturbing.

Because you copied Odins role?

1 minute ago, Ginkapo said:

Because you copied Odins role?

What?

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

What?

How is it difficult for a rebel to make up your claim? Its not.

Speaking of which, bear in mind newer players. Sometimes mods give out fake claims.

Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:

What?

He's saying you saw the convention used when Onidsen was proclaimed "Corpse-Man" and simply copied it in order to appear Imperial.

I personally feel good about CNinja though. He reads to me like a role-less player earnestly stumbling through his first game.

8 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Giled popped in, but didn't really have that much to add so either he is catching up or just hoping that he isn't number one and will last the night.

Catch-up is correct. I missed claiming numbers, so I'll throw out my ident as 1404. I welcome investigation of my snoring habits by Agent Kallus.

6 minutes ago, Tirion said:

I've been utterly silent???

You posted right at the same time as me, at that point it was incorrect but could not be changed.

5 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Because you copied Odins role?

This is REALLY suspicious guys...

You know how I formatted my designation...

1 minute ago, BrobaFett said:

You posted right at the same time as me, at that point it was incorrect but could not be changed.

I've been posting all morning.......

Yeah, I'm not sold on the story from Agent Kallus up there.

Let's see...

Scenario 1: Dab is Rebel.

Option a: We don't lynch today, and set Dab to watch. Madaghmire (the second and likely last cop) dies, Dab lies about who it was, implicating a second loyal subject for lynching tomorrow. 2 loyalists dead at the end of the day tomorrow.

Option b: We lynch today, get Dab, Madaghmire dies tonight but Dab can't do now harm by sowing FUD. 1/1 dead at the end of the day tomorrow.

Scenario 2: Dab is Loyal

A: Dab is lynched, Mad dies tonight. 2 loyalists dead at sunrise tomorrow.

B: Dab lives and plans to watch Mad tonight. The rebels are presumably not stupid and will not night kill someone they know is being watched, but will likely kill Dab to free up Mad for tomorrow night's kill. 1 loyalist dead at sunrise, with another exposed for death the following night.

I don't like either option, but Mad is probably toast either way and we can't trust Dab's word either way. I say lynch Dab, but there is an argument to be made for Mad's idea too.

****, I swapped option A and B between scenarios. Sorry did the confusion, but can't go fix it.

3 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Yeah, I'm not sold on the story from Agent Kallus up there.

Let's see...

Scenario 1: Dab is Rebel.

Option a: We don't lynch today, and set Dab to watch. Madaghmire (the second and likely last cop) dies, Dab lies about who it was, implicating a second loyal subject for lynching tomorrow. 2 loyalists dead at the end of the day tomorrow.

Option b: We lynch today, get Dab, Madaghmire dies tonight but Dab can't do now harm by sowing FUD. 1/1 dead at the end of the day tomorrow.

Scenario 2: Dab is Loyal

A: Dab is lynched, Mad dies tonight. 2 loyalists dead at sunrise tomorrow.

B: Dab lives and plans to watch Mad tonight. The rebels are presumably not stupid and will not night kill someone they know is being watched, but will likely kill Dab to free up Mad for tomorrow night's kill. 1 loyalist dead at sunrise, with another exposed for death the following night.

I don't like either option, but Mad is probably toast either way and we can't trust Dab's word either way. I say lynch Dab, but there is an argument to be made for Mad's idea too.

I choose life!

Well, would be more accurate to say "won't get actionable intelligence out of Dab either way" than "can't trust Dab's word either way," I guess.

Also can someone please tell me how many rebels it takes to kill an imperial. My plan is much less good if we can only maybe catch one, because then honestly I dont really trust dab all that much and we may as well gank him.

I see no reason to wait. We will lose someone tonight no matter what and other then knowing it wasn't the recently deceased what will we have learned?

##vote dab

I suspect they choose one guy to do the killing for both/all of them, if it matters (read: if there's an Agent Kallus), though have no real basis for that.

I really don't think we'll catch all of them with him even if he does manage to catch them.

3 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

What do *snip*

@NobodyInParticular

have to say for themselves?

The silence is deafening.

Yup

2 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

The silence is deafening.

My apologies, I was at a party and have spent the last few minutes catching up. . .

While I agree that Mad's idea is iffy, you never know what could happen, and if Dab is loyal, then we'll still end up with two loyal troopers dead. As such I suggest following Mad's plan. . . we might not necessarily get useful info out of it, but then if we don't follow his plan we definitely won't.

Also in past games I've played (though granted, these were few) mafia/murders/thieves required a majority vote and the kill was considered a group effort.

5 minutes ago, NobodyInParticular said:

My apologies, I was at a party and have spent the last few minutes catching up. . .

Pfft... you people with your social lives outside the internets...

I'd be interested to see @DabDarklighter 's response to Mad's plan. Clearly you won't be in favor of the alternative, but what do you think of the idea as presented? Alternatives that could help your case?

Until I'm convinced (which, I'll be honest, I'm pretty far from it right now), my vote stays on taking care of the Dab threat immediately.

(and Dab, I know you said you're afk for a bit)

Oooh, I was thinking he was at 3. Just to keep him unhammered until we hear back from him, then:

##unvote @DabDarklighter

24 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Oooh, I was thinking he was at 3. Just to keep him unhammered until we hear back from him, then:

##unvote @DabDarklighter

But I will say that it definitely doesn't help his case. I'm "confident" in those voting for him. If he was Imp I think the rebs might have jumped on it and hammered him, no?