6 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

##Vote @carribeanninja

This looks to me like he doesn't know about the names. And now that Mad has dropped a name correctly, we're looking at:

Imps-

Ginkapo (British accent, and knew the names were a thing--or was very good at lying about it)

Tirion (knew the names were a thing)

Madaghmire (used a likely-accurate name)

Ardaedhel (hey, it's me! )

I believed ninja was just confused based on his post about there being four rebels when biggs set the number of seditious sneaks at 2-3. I suppose it could be that he was deliberately setting that down, and if so nice work cuz super subtle. I'm still inclined to believe ninja is imperial but I have nothing concrete to base it on besides what I just said.

3 hours ago, NobodyInParticular said:

Given that Ard didn't attack CNinja, when he could have more quickly ended the day by doing so, implies that Ard thinks CNinja is less likely to be a rebel than others.

Your logic in this post was good, but this assumption breaks the chain of reasoning unfortunately. I can't recall right now why I judged Ovi easier to off than Ninja, but that was the reason. I got suckered into a bad kill by the deadline--I wanted to get a lunch in, and thought it would be easier to get the votes on Ovi.

So, dropping this link in the chain makes Ninja and Mad equally likely. Developments above have now tipped the scales against Ninja, imo.

I wanted c ninja from the beginning day one.

## vote cninja

## unvote

Unless there is a counterclaim Mad shouldnt be lynched. On the plus probs means there is a squad leader

I will say I'd be a little concerned about Gink now. If he didnt come hard on me I maybe could have made it through the round without disclosing my role. Now I wont survive the night.

I also would watch out for Dab, who has said very little and I think thats because the rebels had no need to steer the conversation.

Now I'm a little less concerned about gink.

Day 2: 9 living, 5 to lynch

@BrobaFett
@Madaghmire (2) - CaribbeanNinja, NobodyInParticular, Ginkapo
@Tirion
@Ardaedhel
@NobodyInParticular
@DabDarklighter
@Ginkapo
@Gilad Pellaeon
@CaribbeanNinja (3) - Brobafett, Ardaedhel, Tirion

11 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I will say I'd be a little concerned about Gink now. If he didnt come hard on me I maybe could have made it through the round without disclosing my role. Now I wont survive the night.

I also would watch out for Dab, who has said very little and I think thats because the rebels had no need to steer the conversation.

Lack of posting is tough because it can mean either you're sitting back and watching--a pretty rebel behavior--or it can mean you're just not monitoring the thread very actively.

His quick response time when summoned to axe Ovi yesterday, though, is a (slight, imo) mark against the latter reason... But either way, non-participation is injurious to the common cause of us loyalists.

My suspicion is that one of the rebels is being vocal and the other one or two are hanging back (intentionally or not) so as to avoid conflicting storylines. Ninja is my best guess for the vocal one, but it's a pretty tough call. I could also be totally wrong.

Time to see if you can muster up a believable defence, @CaribbeanNinja

Here are my thoughts:

Scenario 1 - Ard, Mads, and (Broba or Gink) are the rebels and are playing us like a fiddle. Mads' explanation about his investigation would be pure genius.

Scenario 2 - The really quiet ones Dabs, and Giled are laughing their @$$es off while we hammer each other.

I'll go with my gut that Mads explanation was solid and ##unvote.

2 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Here are my thoughts:

Scenario 1 - Ard, Mads, and (Broba or Gink) are the rebels and are playing us like a fiddle. Mads' explanation about his investigation would be pure genius.

Scenario 2 - The really quiet ones Dabs, and Giled are laughing their @$$es off while we hammer each other.

I'll go with my gut that Mads explanation was solid and ##unvote.

This didnt help your case much.

Just now, Madaghmire said:

This didnt help your case much.

I understand. I thought right at the beginning of this day that I'd be the one to go. I'll be right about the repercussions:

Either 5 Imps or 2 rebels left

or

4 imps and 3 rebels left.

One thing I will say thinking about it...

If I'm the rebel, then who are the other(s) that are helping me?

Nobody and Dab aka the other two of the last three votes on Ovin. And a second voter of Mad earlier.

I'm my mind you had a clear cut avenue to Save yourself and didn't use it. My guess is because you didn't know it was there.

@CaribbeanNinja

2 minutes ago, Tirion said:

I'm my mind you had a clear cut avenue to Save yourself and didn't use it. My guess is because you didn't know it was there.

@CaribbeanNinja

Yup. Have no idea what you mean. I'm just a MORON as Gink has shown.

Not a rebel though.

5 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Ard, Mads, and (Broba or Gink) are the rebels and are playing us like a fiddle.

I can only dream of playing this game with this degree of skill.

The Ginkapo - Tirion link precludes Ginkapo from this list. This link was formed by the fact that Ginkapo knew that Tirion could prove or disprove his loyalty by providing his name. Tirion's side was proven (cleverly, imo) by not revealing his name, but revealing the understanding that revealing the name would also reveal usable information early. Every Imperial can go back and verify this.

Madaghmire's name reveal precludes him from the list. Every Imperial can verify what he did to solidify his loyalty. Keep additional information on this as quiet as we can --it, like Princess Leia, may yet be of some use to us.

My good looks preclude me. Also, assuming we're trusting Madaghmire, he has vouched for me.

Which leaves Bro on that list as an unknown. I don't know enough about him to stake a claim one way or other.

I agree with Tirion re: the clear avenue of escape. Off with his head!!

Also, did ninja just provide us with a comprehensive list of loyal subjects? Or was Bro thrown in there to throw us off the scent? Hmmmm...

8 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

I can only dream of playing this game with this degree of skill.

The Ginkapo - Tirion link precludes Ginkapo from this list. This link was formed by the fact that Ginkapo knew that Tirion could prove or disprove his loyalty by providing his name. Tirion's side was proven (cleverly, imo) by not revealing his name, but revealing the understanding that revealing the name would also reveal usable information early. Every Imperial can go back and verify this.

Madaghmire's name reveal precludes him from the list. Every Imperial can verify what he did to solidify his loyalty. Keep additional information on this as quiet as we can --it, like Princess Leia, may yet be of some use to us.

My good looks preclude me. Also, assuming we're trusting Madaghmire, he has vouched for me.

Which leaves Bro on that list as an unknown. I don't know enough about him to stake a claim one way or other.

I agree with Tirion re: the clear avenue of escape. Off with his head!!

Dang it.

I just figured out Mad's reveal. I AM a MORON.

It is not Mads, he is loyal, and I'm guessing that means Tirion is too.

I really want to say more but I don't want to give it away to the rebels.

Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:

Dang it.

I just figured out Mad's reveal. I AM a MORON.

It is not Mads, he is loyal, and I'm guessing that means Tirion is too.

I really want to say more but I don't want to give it away to the rebels.

If you think it will save you, it's worth not lynching another loyalist to tip our hand with that last bit of information. Just don't do it carelessly.

4 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

If you think it will save you, it's worth not lynching another loyalist to tip our hand with that last bit of information. Just don't do it carelessly.

well I just hope it'll save me But Good guys die sometimes.

One For Nothing Rings

I think he's bluffing......

3 minutes ago, Tirion said:

I think he's bluffing......

He definitely is.

Fine. I'm only doing this so we don't lose another loyal imperial.

I am Loyal Imperial Trooper, designation # BG-1405

Ruroh scooby

Gink is why we can't have nice things