I'm looking for suggestions for taking on the Old Teroch, Fenn, and Manaroo list. I believe 5 of the top 16 lists from worlds included these ships. They're just too good at evading so it's difficult to hit them hard enough to actually do damage. Plus you have to be extremely maneuverable to stay out of arc. Any suggestions?
What is the best list to take on the Old Man Fenn meta that's so popular?
The one thing that can surefire deal with them is bombs. Otherwise, you need a ship that throws enough dice to shoot over their defenses, ie maybe Norra. Also, if you can get them stressed, especially stress-stacked, then they get slightly easier to deal with.
Yeah I agree. I'm not even sure Norra hits hard enough to get through their defense. If only there was a way to get Autoblaster Turret on something level 9 or higher. The only way I can see is on the HWK with VI. But there's no way that ship can keep up with Fenn.
HLC cannons, Missiles, etc. Take that range 3 bonus away from them and they are only safe at range 1. Proton Torps sends a crit through. This is the strategy most lists took into Worlds to counter them. Double Firesprays had Homing Missiles, HLC, Fearlessness. Making all ranges trouble. Dengar/Tel loaded up with Torps. Miranda w/ Plasma's and Rey crew.
An ace like Vader can control range 2 and put crits on the protectorates.
Inquisitor shuts off range and autothrusters. He is surprisingly effective versus protectorates. Hit and Run with him.
Bombs are probably the protectorates worse nightmare. 4hp and no shields.
I think stress is a great away to deal with them. Yes, they can clear it with their f-ing greens, but it lets you control how fast they go. They cant do a 3 bank and then boost, they are limited to that 2 bank and boost. Or the 3 straight and boost instead of the 4 or 5 straight. This gives you information to plan ahead and try to avoid the range 1.
Blocking is still powerful against them as well. Blocking them and getting another ship at range 2 is about the best scenario many lists can dream of.
33 minutes ago, Corban LaFon said:Yeah I agree. I'm not even sure Norra hits hard enough to get through their defense. If only there was a way to get Autoblaster Turret on something level 9 or higher. The only way I can see is on the HWK with VI. But there's no way that ship can keep up with Fenn.
I am currently working on a Norra build to deal with them:
(39) Norra w/ Predator + Katarn + R3A2 + VT + Title
She stresses, clears stress, gets focus, then actions for TL. Reroll with predator. That one reroll increases her chances of 4 hits compared with PTL from 42% to 74% (that is full mod Whisper-esque). She still ends stressed, same as PTL, but multiple stress and blocking doesn't kill her as she still gets her focus token and predator reroll.
9 minutes ago, wurms said:
(39) Norra w/ Predator + Katarn + R3A2 + VT + Title
I've been waiting to see this build run since the ARC came out. Good luck!
21 minutes ago, Biophysical said:I've been waiting to see this build run since the ARC came out. Good luck!
I need a third ship!
Norra (39)
Biggs (26)
35pts left. That is my problem. Need an endgame ship:
Miranda w/ TLT + Chopper (35)
Poe w/ Adapt + BB8 + Primed Thrusters + IA + Black1
Sabine Attack Shuttle w/ VI + TLT + Chewie + Hull
Procket Jake with 2pt bid?
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