New to the game.

Picked up the Moldy Crow as one of my first ships...

imagined this...

nostalgiad this...

looked at the pilot abilities...

looked at the ship stats...

looked at the dial...

no boost...

no barrel roll...

a support ship?

felt like this...

The dial is soooooooo bad.

Wish there were a totally different dial and some Rey/Fin style attack bonuses for using the turret in arc.

Hell just a way to fly it without a turret and 3 attack die default would be ok by me.

Also....while im venting....Rogue One was garbage..and Disney CLEARLY got the idea of Jyn Erso from Jan Ors.

#NotMyStolenDeathStarPlans

No good maneuvering needed with turrets

Remember during the Boba Fett mission, where Jan Ors flies off and succesfully defeats a swarm of multiple tie fighters Solo?

3 minutes ago, IG88E said:

No good maneuvering needed with turrets

I think thats why im sad...i wish i could play it without the 360 arc or at least an incentive to get ships in arc with some kinda counter balance to the turrets.

6 minutes ago, Boom Owl said:

New to the game.

Picked up the Moldy Crow as one of my first ships...

imagined this...

nostalgiad this...

looked at the pilot abilities...

looked at the ship stats...

looked at the dial...

no boost...

no barrel roll...

a support ship?

felt like this...

The dial is soooooooo bad.

Wish there were a totally different dial and some Rey/Fin style attack bonuses for using the turret in arc.

Hell just a way to fly it without a turret and 3 attack die default would be ok by me.

I feel ya. But they got the scale correct! THEY GOT THE SCALE CORRECT.

UNLIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, EVER.

1 minute ago, Ravncat said:

Remember during the Boba Fett mission, where Jan Ors flies off and succesfully defeats a swarm of multiple tie fighters Solo?

I am pretty sure you're confusing two different games there. A few TIEs intercept you and Jan while you're on Nar Shadda, she deals with them, and you get your dad's disk.

3 minutes ago, Ravncat said:

Remember during the Boba Fett mission, where Jan Ors flies off and succesfully defeats a swarm of multiple tie fighters Solo?

The fact that Jan and Kyle are support and turret ships mainly just doesnt seem to fit their characters at all.

Kyles a Jedi version of Han Solo basically...woulda thought he would fly a little bit more aggressive.

And in the games he can "choose" dark side powers. Feels like a huge missed opportunity in there somewhere.

Well first of all it was designed as the counterpart to the Imperial utility ship the Lambda Class Shuttle which arguably has a worse dial. At first I thought the dial was better than the Y-wing but I guess a pair of green banks does not compare to a red K-turn.

The biggest draw back is the 1 firepower to what we all know thanks to power creep where 2 firepower on a standard firing arc is next to useless, hence is why the Quadjumper was 2 firepower when in actuality it should have be 1 as a civilian ship. They need TLTs (or any other secondary weapon) to be effective on the field.

5 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

Well first of all it was designed as the counterpart to the Imperial utility ship the Lambda Class Shuttle which arguably has a worse dial. At first I thought the dial was better than the Y-wing but I guess a pair of green banks does not compare to a red K-turn.

The biggest draw back is the 1 firepower to what we all know thanks to power creep where 2 firepower on a standard firing arc is next to useless, hence is why the Quadjumper was 2 firepower when in actuality it should have be 1 as a civilian ship. They need TLTs (or any other secondary weapon) to be effective on the field.

TLTs are effective. There basically space taxes...in terms of fun factor though.

And a ship that was picked to be a rebel lambda?? Great fine ok i get it seems a bit random.

Why do Jan and Kyle have to be that lame?

I want to pew pew and main line some Dark Forces memories. Not...just make other pilots gud.

Guess i can just put the HWK model on the E-Wing stand and print my own costume "Jedi Knight Kyle Card".

10 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

I feel ya. But they got the scale correct! THEY GOT THE SCALE CORRECT.

UNLIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, EVER.

I am pretty sure you're confusing two different games there. A few TIEs intercept you and Jan while you're on Nar Shadda, she deals with them, and you get your dad's disk.

I'm pretty sure it's on the "Imperial City" Mission (dark forces) right around when you have to fight Boba Fett, Jan Radios in about ties.

3 minutes ago, Ravncat said:

I'm pretty sure it's on the "Imperial City" Mission (dark forces) right around when you have to fight Boba Fett, Jan Radios in about ties.

That's entirely possible.

So basically she does it twice.

6 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

That's entirely possible.

So basically she does it twice.

Hey, Wookiepedia has it!

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mission_to_Coruscant_(Kyle_Katarn)

She disappears from coms shortly after 19:50 , then explains it at 21:27 "I had tie fighters all over me, i had to properly dispose of them"

p.s. this was not done to prove a point as much as to make sure I wasn't insane though, by posting this, I may have proven such insanity anyway!

3 minutes ago, Ravncat said:

Hey, Wookiepedia has it!

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mission_to_Coruscant_(Kyle_Katarn)

She disappears from coms shortly after 19:50 , then explains it at 21:27 "I had tie fighters all over me, i had to properly dispose of them"

p.s. this was not done to prove a point as much as to make sure I wasn't insane though, by posting this, I may have proven such insanity anyway!

Huh, go figure! Some Dark Forces fan I am. I should actually note Dark Forces is the ONLY game of the franchise I've never completed. Largely due to GETTING IT TO SODDING RUN.

So she does this twice. Jesus.

And it only took her a minute or so! (Granted, I remember spending a lot more time in the Boba Fett fight.

Me too.

But what am I disappointed about?

Really wish people would pay more attention in classes and actually give proper title instead of "WOW, look at this!" titles.

Well there is many other ships you can and will buy that eventually will make your HWK way better. I remember my friend who was new to the game running HWK with Moldy Crow tittle but without any turret so he had Attack of 1 and ton of basically useless Focus tokens.

There is bit of an learning curve to this game but I recommend to read what are the Ship packs including instead of buying blindly them. Depends which faction you want to play what ships should you buy. For starters I don't recommend to buy other factions for just upgrade cards. Aim for something basic and build up from there and learn to fly first and when you get addicted to the game, buy more and maybe start expanding to the other factions if you feel like getting some great upgrade cards.

Forgot the ninja...

I fully agree with Zazaa's second statement. I kinda have a loose "canon" only stance with what I buy for Imperials and Rebels... but with Scum, that all goes out the window because who the hell knows what's out there that we don't get to see!

I mostly fly Rebel/Resistance, so I actually don't use E-Wings OR K-Wings! I know, shocker. I'm actually hoping that with the Han Solo, er, solo movie on the horizon, we'll see a new Scum set that gives us dials for the 1300 and 2400 like Most Wanted did for the Firespray, Y-Wing, Z-95 and HWK... speaking of which, the Hwk is locked squarely in the Scum faction for any of my lists

Boom Owl, as long as you don't plan on doing any tournaments or anything like that, change that dial, build the ship YOU feel it should be. There is no problem with home-brewing ships and abilities... just... you know, keep it in the home and between friends (but, anything you DO make up for the HWK, I'd love to see!)

Well, it's a beautiful model anyway.

I have the fix for you:

One of my favorite ships to include in my squadron. It has EPT, Turret and Crew. Those give lot of different options after you have good selection of upgrades.

2 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Why do Jan and Kyle have to be that lame?

Jan won the Las Vegas Regional while flying her HWK.

2 hours ago, Boom Owl said:

Also....while im venting....Rogue One was garbage

2 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

For real though it wasnt good.

The best parts were the Rogue Squadron movie they didnt make!

@Boom Owl Have you seen the designers for X-Wing? They are way too young to know WTF you are talking out. They just think it is some old crappy looking game Uncle Joe played.

And Rogue One is as good as it gets in the Disney era. Might as well enjoy it.

5 minutes ago, Mep said:

@Boom Owl Have you seen the designers for X-Wing? They are way too young to know WTF you are talking out. They just think it is some old crappy looking game Uncle Joe played.

And Rogue One is as good as it gets in the Disney era. Might as well enjoy it.

Your right.

Punk Kids.

Git off my lawn.

4 hours ago, StevenO said:

Me too.

But what am I disappointed about?

Really wish people would pay more attention in classes and actually give proper title instead of "WOW, look at this!" titles.

Agreed. Bad form. Bad form.

Title adjusted!