3 minutes ago, Tvayumat said:

Archers can blight engaged units. Lancers can't.

but the you panic your guys.

5 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:

but the you panic your guys.

Sure, but Waiqar is steadfast against doubt. They can take low level panic tests much easier than any Daqan can.

4 hours ago, Tvayumat said:

Archers can blight engaged units. Lancers can't.

1. Exactly. Carrion lancers have several dificulties towards blighting:
2. They may blight and then turn. Most units have special skill in second dial, not in first, That's a serious tactical drawback.
3. Daqan can outmameuvre them, Oathsworn cavalry more movement choices.
4. In the face to face Oathsworn cavalry hits harder than carrion lancers. Whithout blight they find it hard to kill cavalry because of threat 1.

To me Carrion lancer blight is a mild tool to do something if you cannot engage, but I'd generally prefer to blight with archers and use carrion lancers to prevent oathsworn cavalry from outmaneuvering me.

Between Archers, lancers, and the blight banner, Waiqar are getting a lot of ways to blight stuff...so I don't see 3 2x1 archers w/ CI as the only list you can build...but I'm tired of this argument and like the majority of people have pointed out, in all but the most serious tournaments, like Adepticon, Worlds, Crucible...you are most likely going to be able to proxy the card as long as you have a copy of it to start with...The model is not greedy or scammy, FFG is still making the point of entry with the core/army boxes half a d@mn army, better than the alternatives with other game companies...I don't care how many models GW throws into the Dark Vengeance box or the AoS starter those are a mere FRACTION of the army size that RuneWars is. Yes to the people who went all gung-ho into the game they probably will have to pick up some expacs that will have models they won't need...I know I'm going to fall into that category but ya know what? That was my choice and that is my fault for forcing myself into the corner without planning things out. I wish I had waited and but bought a single core that I could have traded and someone for then grown the game with expacs. But I didn't and now I get to pay for my impatiences, that is not FFG's fault it's mine!

9 hours ago, Tvayumat said:

Sure, but Waiqar is steadfast against doubt. They can take low level panic tests much easier than any Daqan can.

Steadfast (Doubt) is useless against severity one morale tests as there are no severity one doubt cards. It's the big devastating stuff that it protects against.

Here's the breakdown of the moral deck that I did in a different thread:

On 4/18/2017 at 3:48 PM, WWHSD said:

50% of the deck is severity 1.
26.6% of the deck is severity 2.
23.3% of the deck is severity 3.

20% of the deck is Doubt (3 sev 2, 3 sev 3).
40% of the deck is Fear (8 sev 1, 2 sev 2, 2 sev 3).
40% of the deck is Confusion (7 sev 1, 3 sev 2, 2 sev 3).

13 minutes ago, WWHSD said:

Steadfast (Doubt) is useless against severity one morale tests as there are no severity one doubt cards. It's the big devastating stuff that it protects against.

Here's the breakdown of the moral deck that I did in a different thread:

Yeah but most S1 morale tests are just get more panic...steadfast has saved me a lot in past games...

4 hours ago, druchii7 said:

Most units have special skill in second dial, not in first.

That's actually not true. Of the 14 units we know the dials for only 6 of them have the skill action on the right dial. So far all heroes and siege units have the skill on the left dial. All (non-hero) infantry units have their skill on the right dial. Cavalry is 50/50.

Left
Ardus
Lancers
Kari
Rune Golem
Aymhelin Scions
Alliana
Leonx Riders
Lord Hawthorne

Right
Reanimate Archers
Reanimates
Oathsworn
Spearmen
Deepwood Archers
Heavy Crossbowmen

Unknown
Maegan
Ankaur Maro

Just now, jek said:

Yeah but most S1 morale tests are just get more panic...steadfast has saved me a lot in past games...

I'm not saying that Steadfast (Doubt) isn't good. I'm just saying that it isn't a factor in the lowest severity morale tests. Steadfast (Fear) or Steadfast (Confusion) would be much stronger against the lowest severity tests.

1 minute ago, WWHSD said:

I'm not saying that Steadfast (Doubt) isn't good. I'm just saying that it isn't a factor in the lowest severity morale tests. Steadfast (Fear) or Steadfast (Confusion) would be much stronger against the lowest severity tests.

Ardus has steadfast (fear) nothing affects him lol...

I think the core question of the thread is too early to call.

A few months down the road and people will have a much better idea of how it works out.

But if FFG is listening here is something I dearly want from the game.

Give me enough copies of whatever cards I could want but be extremely careful to not give me too many new upgrades too quickly. I want fewer and better choices than I have with my x-wing forces.

also folks keep in mind that FFG does throw in upgrades and useful cards into Organized play kits and i bet people will be much more casual about RW cardboard requirements.

3 hours ago, WWHSD said:

Steadfast (Doubt) is useless against severity one morale tests as there are no severity one doubt cards. It's the big devastating stuff that it protects against.

Here's the breakdown of the moral deck that I did in a different thread:

But severity one tests are all fairly mild. It makes them able to stomach a strength 2 test without worrying about the much worse doubt cards that start to show up, whereas for any Daqan unit, strength 2 test may just result in a reform to a flank.

A less savvy opponent may waste a token bumping the archer test to two.

If your opponent is savvy, they won't spend a panic token on an archer test until they have at LEAST two, ideally three saved up. This buys time and makes firing into combat more viable, which is the whole point.

Worst case scenario is getting a rising panic, which admittedly sucks.

Can confirm this works. I do it constantly.