Just now, Undeadguy said:I see the flagship as being 23 points? Unless you're referring to the total point cost. I just assume the total is correct since it auto adds everything.
Yeah the total is correct. Double checked.
Point limit to Unique Squadrons: a possible Rieekan solution?
4 minutes ago, Warlord Zepnick said:It does, but don't you think a fully kitted demo will make quick work of the Quasar?
Maybe, but my comment is in regards to dealing with ace squads, specifically Rieekan ace lists, which I did not clarify. If you're worried about Demo, bring the usual to deal with it, whatever that may be.
You cannot design a list to counter every single thing.
The consolidate squadron attacks idea could become an upgrade card: redirects dont get spent when used against squadrons. Spend it at the end of turn if squadron damage was redirected.
My bet is on more squadron damaging upgrades like kallus.
14 minutes ago, Warlord Zepnick said:Have you played against this list or fielded something like this?
Yeah, @Aresius 's list is very similar. Its powerful for sure. His list isnt completely negated by slicers. This one is.
I have played against Demo before with a slicers flotilla and completely played it out of the game.
12 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:Yeah, @Aresius 's list is very similar. Its powerful for sure. His list isnt completely negated by slicers. This one is.
I have played against Demo before with a slicers flotilla and completely played it out of the game.
A perceived weakness to slicer tools does not make that a terrible list. I'm also unsure as to how one slicer tools is going to "completely negate" this list, given that relay squad commands can come from pretty much anywhere, and he can bank a demo nav token before slicers can possibly be played against him, alleviating if not eliminating their deliterious effects.
IMO its a perfectly fine list. Two credible anti ship threats, 6 activations and an effective squadron force. I don't share Zepnicks concerns that its going to define the meta, but to call it a terrible list?
Just now, Madaghmire said:A perceived weakness to slicer tools does not make that a terrible list. I'm also unsure as to how one slicer tools is going to "completely negate" this list, given that relay squad commands can come from pretty much anywhere, and he can bank a demo nav token before slicers can possibly be played against him, alleviating if not eliminating their deliterious effects.
IMO its a perfectly fine list. Two credible anti ship threats, 6 activations and an effective squadron force. I don't share Zepnicks concerns that its going to define the meta, but to call it a terrible list?
Where is the second credible anti ship threat? I see only one
8 minutes ago, Xeletor said:The consolidate squadron attacks idea could become an upgrade card: redirects dont get spent when used against squadrons. Spend it at the end of turn if squadron damage was redirected.
My bet is on more squadron damaging upgrades like kallus.
Admiral Piett
25 points
During an opponents activation when more than one squadron attack targets a friendly ship, the defender may choose to consolidate the attacks before resolving them. Squadron attacks consolidated this way are treated as one attack in regards to spending defense tokens and resolving critical effects.
something like that? lol
Just now, Ginkapo said:Where is the second credible anti ship threat? I see only one
The second glad. Actually if you count the squads there are three.
Edited by Madaghmire1 hour ago, Alzer said:The battle for the first Death Star was pretty loaded.
Luke, Wedge, Biggs, Gold Squadron, Dutch, Han vs. Vader and Black Squadron.
You forgot Pops. But then again, so did FFG.
20 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:A perceived weakness to slicer tools does not make that a terrible list. I'm also unsure as to how one slicer tools is going to "completely negate" this list, given that relay squad commands can come from pretty much anywhere, and he can bank a demo nav token before slicers can possibly be played against him, alleviating if not eliminating their deliterious effects.
Only for the one turn on which Demo spends the token, and only if you took that token on round 1.
See my Worlds game 1 bat rep for what happens to Demo against Slicer Tools Quantum Storm .
3 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:Only for the one turn on which Demo spends the token, and only if you took that token on round 1.
See my Worlds game 1 bat rep for what happens to Demo against Slicer Tools Quantum Storm .
Again, so?
Slicer tools arent common enough to pick them out and say "hey this upgrade is good against your list so your list is terrible"
Also, his high deployment curve is a mitigating factor.
Edited by Madaghmire13 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Again, so?
Slicer tools arent common enough to pick them out and say "hey this upgrade is good against your list so your list is terrible"
Also, his high deployment curve is a mitigating factor.
If you drink the "gid gud" kul-aids you would already have Slicer so you can counter everything.
Jeez Mad, don't you know how the forums work? You give you opinion and everyone else tells you it's perfect counter and why it's a bad idea.
In case you want some of that juice, here's the recipe:
1 part salt (must be derived from Demo/Rhymer/Yavaris)
1 part tears from the guy who lost all of his matches
1 part brow sweat from the guy who just won with Rieekan aces
1 part spittle from the guy who's angry about squadrons
1 lemon
And the secret ingredient: At least 3 flotillas. The more you add, the gudder you will git.
1 minute ago, Undeadguy said:If you drink the "gid gud" kul-aids you would already have Slicer so you can counter everything.
This
6 minutes ago, Undeadguy said:If you drink the "gid gud" kul-aids you would already have Slicer so you can counter everything.
Jeez Mad, don't you know how the forums work? You give you opinion and everyone else tells you it's perfect counter and why it's a bad idea.
In case you want some of that juice, here's the recipe:
1 part salt (must be derived from Demo/Rhymer/Yavaris)
1 part tears from the guy who lost all of his matches
1 part brow sweat from the guy who just won with Rieekan aces
1 part spittle from the guy who's angry about squadrons
1 lemon
And the secret ingredient: At least 3 flotillas. The more you add, the gudder you will git.
Are the flotillas for dipping or do they go right in?
7 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Are the flotillas for dipping or do they go right in?
It's like a breakfast smoothie. All into the blender.
What's all this talk about slicers countering Demo?
Why aren't you people using Navigation Officer on your Demo?
Madness!
1 minute ago, Democratus said:What's all this talk about slicers countering Demo?
Why aren't you people using Navigation Officer on your Demo?
Madness!
I've got an Engineering Captain on board! I need to get the hull breached else we all die!
10 minutes ago, Undeadguy said:I've got an Engineering Captain on board! I need to get the hull breached else we all die!
Why would breaching the hull help?
2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:Why would breaching the hull help?
Can't have explosive decompression if there's no atmosphere.
Just now, Undeadguy said:Can't have explosive decompression if there's no atmosphere.
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Just now, Madaghmire said:...
The Stormtroopers have helmets n suits. They "should" be fine.
Just now, Undeadguy said:The Stormtroopers have helmets n suits. They "should" be fine.
Yeah cuz that armor isnt completely useless at all