1 minute ago, tenchi2a said:

Just a clarification, the current FFG time period is more them likely between 1098-1100 IC (Isawa calander)give or take a year or two. that would place it before the scorpion clan coup. More in line with the start of the RPG.

The original CCG game started a year or two after the coup.

The Scorpion Coup was in 1123, but since most of the major players for it are already in position, I would say we are around 1115-1120 in the new timeline... Especially with Doji Satsume already no longer being Clan Champion of the Crane lets me think it is rather close to the point where the Scorpion Coup would have been.

There are some very interesting things that happened in the past before the clan wars. I keep thinking that it may be a good idea to leave the past blank for now. The exception being the dawn of the empire. This would allow them to do their own version of those events and they could avoid doing the Scorpion Coup.

Seeing something like Hantei XVI would be great way to have the clans fighting each other. A paranoid emperor is manipulating the clans into fighting each other to keep their power down.

3 minutes ago, Drudenfusz said:

The Scorpion Coup was in 1123, but since most of the major players for it are already in position, I would say we are around 1115-1120 in the new timeline... Especially with Doji Satsume already no longer being Clan Champion of the Crane lets me think it is rather close to the point where the Scorpion Coup would have been.

yeah that was a bad time guess on my part due to looking in the wrong book.

Lets figure this out:

Akodo Arasou died in 1120 IC during the assult on Toshi Ranbo.

Isawa Uona started her apprenticeship with the master of air in 1117 IC.

Doji Tsukihi was the Emerald Champion in 1109.

In 1114, shortly after the conclusion of Winter Court, Kachiko wed Bayushi Shoju.

In 1120, Kachiko was appointed the personal aide of Emperor Hantei XXXVIII.

So if the past has not been changed that much then the year must be 1120 IC

22 minutes ago, TechnoGolem said:

Seeing something like Hantei XVI would be great way to have the clans fighting each other. A paranoid emperor is manipulating the clans into fighting each other to keep their power down.

I thought it was agreed the further away you are from Hantei XVI or anyone similar the better .

As for the timeline I would say that, anything before this time is still canon with redcons as needed.

Lets face it the time line is a mess in some areas due to added stories

Writes not looking up when things happened example: Hantai the XXXVIII taking the throne in 1103 but Winter Court - Kyuden Seppun being his 21 year of reign. (Due the math)

A tenth Kami being added for story, and the lame recon that they didn't bring him up to honor him.

etc.

I'm kinda going with the mentality that the further back material is, the safer it is to assume that it's mostly intact. Obviously anything is up for getting the magic marker, but "ancient history" is stuff that can be spun as being whatever part myth and legend you want it to be, with different interpretations and perspectives. Recent history though, is something that directly impacts the motivations of characters you are trying to tell a story about.

2 hours ago, Kiseki said:

I'm kinda going with the mentality that the further back material is, the safer it is to assume that it's mostly intact. Obviously anything is up for getting the magic marker, but "ancient history" is stuff that can be spun as being whatever part myth and legend you want it to be, with different interpretations and perspectives. Recent history though, is something that directly impacts the motivations of characters you are trying to tell a story about.

I would say the older the more likely tilt is to be part of the new canon.

7 hours ago, tenchi2a said:

yeah that was a bad time guess on my part due to looking in the wrong book.

Lets figure this out:

Akodo Arasou died in 1120 IC during the assult on Toshi Ranbo.

Isawa Uona started her apprenticeship with the master of air in 1117 IC.

Doji Tsukihi was the Emerald Champion in 1109.

In 1114, shortly after the conclusion of Winter Court, Kachiko wed Bayushi Shoju.

In 1120, Kachiko was appointed the personal aide of Emperor Hantei XXXVIII.

So if the past has not been changed that much then the year must be 1120 IC

Oooooh, I would find it interesting to see the first chapter to be something like "Assault on Toshi Ranbo"...

7 hours ago, Ser Nakata said:

Oooooh, I would find it interesting to see the first chapter to be something like "Assault on Toshi Ranbo"...

Did someone say TOSHI RAMBO?!

The answer is "no."

2 hours ago, twinstarbmc said:

Did someone say TOSHI RAMBO?!

Why does an Imperial City look suspiciously like farmland?

13 hours ago, JJ48 said:

Why does an Imperial City look suspiciously like farmland?

I think the pic comes from the movie.

4 hours ago, Ser Nakata said:

I think the pic comes from the movie.

What movie?

29 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

What movie?

At a guess, Rambo...

1 hour ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

At a guess, Rambo...

Ah, I missed the wordplay. Thanks for the clarification.

While working on the wiki I noticed something in the first article by FFG, that it says there Rokugans is dominated by thousand years of conflict, while on the old game it told us there had been a thousand years of peace, that indicates to me the change of history might be bigger than some assume here.

On 11.5.2017 at 2:27 AM, Drudenfusz said:

While working on the wiki I noticed something in the first article by FFG, that it says there Rokugans is dominated by thousand years of conflict, while on the old game it told us there had been a thousand years of peace, that indicates to me the change of history might be bigger than some assume here.

And now in the Facebook live talk they basically confirmed my suspision that we cannot assume the past to be still canon.

OR everything that happened is still canon, and the FFG storyline is set in the future, where coincidence has brought about a lot of people with the same names as similar folks from the Coup era!

On 9.5.2017 at 6:33 PM, JJ48 said:

Why does an Imperial City look suspiciously like farmland?

After Otosan Uchi (the old capital) was destroyed, they needed to build a new one. To take an already large existing city was out of question since that would have favored one of the clans. So they build the new capital in the middle of nowhere.

7 minutes ago, Yandia said:

After Otosan Uchi (the old capital) was destroyed, they needed to build a new one. To take an already large existing city was out of question since that would have favored one of the clans. So they build the new capital in the middle of nowhere.

Toshi Ranbo wo Shien Shite Reigisaho was an existing city, on the Crane/Lion border. Hotly contested between the two clans, the Crane somehow convinced the Lion and the Imperial Families to build the new capital there.

I never did get used to Toshi Ranbo being the capital, and I struggled to even remember its name until it was posted again here.

The city of Toshi Ranbo was founded by the Lion more than 700 years before it became the Imperial City.

For examples of major events happening at Toshi Ranbo, there was Akodo Arasou's death by the Daidoji when the city was in the hands of the Crane (just before SCC), or Matsu Nimuro's victory despite having pubicly detailed his plans to retake the city, giving birth to his reputation as a great commander (just before the beginning of the Four Winds story arc).

36 minutes ago, Kakita Shiro said:

Toshi Ranbo wo Shien Shite Reigisaho was an existing city, on the Crane/Lion border. Hotly contested between the two clans, the Crane somehow convinced the Lion and the Imperial Families to build the new capital there.

I know but Toshi Ranbo was rather small.

15 minutes ago, Yandia said:

I know but Toshi Ranbo was rather small.

Every city was smaller than Otosan Uchi. Even Ryoko Owari, and nobody would have liked to make the Scorpion city to be the new capitol. But Toshi Ranbo was still not nowhere. It was on the imperial road, and yes it was in the middle of farm land, very fertile farmland, over which the Lion and the Crane fought for centuries (and occationally the Phoenix and Dragon also showed up there). So, it was a rather natural node between multiple clans and a solid choice as new capitol, especially since that also ended the feuds over the lands there.

On 5/12/2017 at 0:32 PM, Drudenfusz said:

And now in the Facebook live talk they basically confirmed my suspision that we cannot assume the past to be still canon.

Good. Maybe this means we won't have the same handful of big bads nearly destroy Rokugan forever over and over again this time.