22 hours ago, VanorDM said:

While 'the rules don't say you can't do it' is seldom a convincing argument in some cases it is a valid one.

Rules are permissive, not restrictive. There's no rule that says I can't win the game by farting the Star Wars theme, so I guess that's how we win now.

20 minutes ago, skotothalamos said:

Rules are permissive, not restrictive.

Not completely. They expressly prevent you from checking for range other than in situations mentioned. So they are at least partly restrictive, and there's other cases where they are restrictive, telling you what you can't do, or what you must do. Also if they expressly cover measuring in one case but not another then it can be argued that if they don't cover it then it's allowed.

Not everyone is going to understand or care that the rules are permissive vs restrictive. If someone starts an argument with 'the rules don't say you can't' you're going to have to first win the argument about what the rules do or don't allow.

Also your example while clearly meant to be silly is still a poor example since the rules actually do define what the win condition is, what the rules don't define however is what is or isn't allowed in the planning phase. It only says you are to set your maneuver in secret using your dial... While that is good enough for me, it doesn't mean everyone is going to agree that you can't do other things during the planning phase.

So this is a very clear example of something FFG would of been wise to more clearly define.

On 5/3/2017 at 10:46 PM, StevenO said:

My opinion, suck it up. You want them to stare at it for 5 minutes trying mentally picture it as accurately as possible or do want the game to proceed at a decent pace where your opponent is a least making moderately informed decisions? If they want to telegraph their thinking use THAT to make them pay.

Bravo,

this is exactly why I don't play in events casual or otherwise. So they premeasure so what? It gives you for knowledge of what they want to do and no where have I seen an arguement of someone insisting you need to do it too. This is just baby crying, but it's supposed to be this way, the developers get final say on rules not us. They haven't made this an official rule in TFA...so guess what my friends till they do it's not. There is no inferring there is no speculation. It is currently not in the rules.

You are definitely 100% not allowed to pre-check potential movement of your ships. Because the book doesn't say you are allowed to do that, thus you cannot do that.

Most games have Permissive Rulesets, X-wing included. This means that you are not allowed to do something unless the rules say you can. If rules don't say you can premeasure, then you cannot.