1 hour ago, Tvayumat said:This interpretation has been put forward a few times now, but it really seems to be trying too hard to read into something that isn't there.
Oops sorry I missed those other times... please forgive me for asking you to retread old ground
My intent was not to read into something that wasn't there, but to wrap my head around seemingly contradictory or badly imparted rules (c.f. engagement and tray corners)
QuoteIt ignores the relevant text under Overlapping
I'm sorry if I seem dense ... what relevant text is it ignoring? I would have thought the only relevant text of 60 is the opening paragraph and 60.1
Quoteit prevents you from entering terrain you are already in contact with
Does it though? Technically you don't collide with that terrain initially, but you do actually collide with it when performing a move action as Overlapping triggers once you move.
Quoteit prevents you from taking damage if ordered to march into spikes via Morale Card "Flee in Terror" if you are already contacting them.
I would have thought it prevents you from taking damage if you are sitting still (rallying or some other non-movement action) and contacting the terrain.
When you start your turn touching, no collision. If during your turn you move/overlap that terrain by a move action on your dial or are forced to move through it via a Morale "Flee in Terror" then you will collide and take damage.
QuoteThe primary issue is that it assumes that the text under collision 18 is the entirety of the Collision rules, when it isn't at all.
I could not agree more! Although I didn't quote 81.1 Terrain, I did quote 60 as well as 18.
QuoteOverlapping says you collide when you overlap, so you collide when you overlap, RAW.
I agree 100% ... that was my point - you don't Collide at the start of the turn with any obstacle you are already touching. You will collide with it when you overlap, which you will do so when you are caused to overlap via a move action, either willingly (on your dial) or unwillingly (morale test).
Looking at my original post I see that I was perhaps less than clear on the final point. I did not clarify that the unit ultimately collides.
Here are my steps again with better worded intent in the final point:
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A unit marches forward and overlaps an obstacle. It is moved back along its movement template and is left touching the obstacle. (per Overlapping 60.1)
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Next turn, the unit marches forward again. It does not collide with the terrain it is already touching. (per Collision 18)
- Although the unit does not collide (per Collision 18), as it marches forward it overlaps the obstacle and Collides (per Overlapping 60.1) … therefore it is moved back along its movement template and is left touching the obstacle, and resolves a Collision.