49 minutes ago, hidasaurus said:Based off other lcgs released, does ffg put limits on copies you can purchase at gen-con? Do you expect there to be a one or two core limit?
Based on previous new game releases, the answer would be no.
You may purchase as many copies as you would like. (so long as you don't do anything crazy like attempt to buy 20 sets...)
On 4/28/2017 at 10:25 PM, The Laughing Monk said:I'm a grown man with responsibilities that can't make it to gen-con.
This excuse is pretty lame. I'm a grown man with responsibilities and I'm going to Gencon. I know of LOTS of people who are grown adults and are going to gencon. It just seems like your reason is NOT that you're a grown man with responsibilities. It seems like you just have a controlling wife that said no and you feel the need to obey. I mean... that's as fine of an excuse as any, but trying to pass it off as being a grown up with responsibilities is clearly not a good reason.
After being burned by Star Wars Destiny's atrocious availability after release, I'm really nervous about being able to even get this game. Whenever the full release of this game is, I just hope they print plenty of product and keep their printers on standby in case demand once again far exceeds their supply. It will be bad for the health of the game if people attracted by the initial release hype are not able to find the game anywhere and lose interest.
2 hours ago, Mandalore525 said:After being burned by Star Wars Destiny's atrocious availability after release, I'm really nervous about being able to even get this game. Whenever the full release of this game is, I just hope they print plenty of product and keep their printers on standby in case demand once again far exceeds their supply. It will be bad for the health of the game if people attracted by the initial release hype are not able to find the game anywhere and lose interest.
This sort of happened with GoT 2.0. Lots of hype going into Gen Con and a very limited number of cores coming out. The game wasn't officially released until after FFG Worlds that year and by that time I know a number of people fell back into Netrunner or their other games.
FFG has said L5R is going to be their biggest release ever, but I too am concerned about the release schedule not being quick enough to keep the hype going.
Although, if the Gen Con release is incredible and gets people to the point where they will play with proxies for awhile until official release then the delay might not be a problem at all.
I'm totally printing a whole deck when the cards are revealed. And I won't be the only one here.
5 hours ago, Sparks Duh said:This excuse is pretty lame. I'm a grown man with responsibilities and I'm going to Gencon. I know of LOTS of people who are grown adults and are going to gencon. It just seems like your reason is NOT that you're a grown man with responsibilities. It seems like you just have a controlling wife that said no and you feel the need to obey. I mean... that's as fine of an excuse as any, but trying to pass it off as being a grown up with responsibilities is clearly not a good reason.
You have no idea what his responsibilities are, which makes it rude to call them lame. It could be something like being the carer for a parent or child, or working a job which doesn't let him take the time off. Perhaps you should be a bit less aggressive.
I think the post from Sparks was missing a few emoticons. He's a genuinely good guy, but his sense of humour doesn't always translate well to the internet.
8 hours ago, Sparks Duh said:This excuse is pretty lame. I'm a grown man with responsibilities and I'm going to Gencon. I know of LOTS of people who are grown adults and are going to gencon. It just seems like your reason is NOT that you're a grown man with responsibilities. It seems like you just have a controlling wife that said no and you feel the need to obey. I mean... that's as fine of an excuse as any, but trying to pass it off as being a grown up with responsibilities is clearly not a good reason.
I didn't mean it that way! I would venture to say the overwhelming majority of GenCon attendees are 'grown men with responsibilities'. I simply can't afford to go because I don't have enough expendable income due to my responsibilities (kid, job, house, pets, etc.) and it is impossible for me to take time off work on the 17th and 18th. I guess this is why I have lived my life not posting things on message boards. Just excited to get playing again . . . Also, I always enjoyed Sparks 'sense of humor', but there was no humor in that post. It was a little strange. I will continue to enjoy his posts though.
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7 hours ago, Mandalore525 said:After being burned by Star Wars Destiny's atrocious availability after release, I'm really nervous about being able to even get this game. Whenever the full release of this game is, I just hope they print plenty of product and keep their printers on standby in case demand once again far exceeds their supply. It will be bad for the health of the game if people attracted by the initial release hype are not able to find the game anywhere and lose interest.
They already said bigger first run ever. If somehow they manage to fall short like with Arkham Horror, despite bigger run, there is no "printers on standby". There is "send order for more, wait for other stuff being printed before this order can be completed".
I really hope they can make the release in early october. I would prefer september but does not seem likely. Which sucks consider all that people already enjoying their GenCon boxes.
Release the ponies, FFG!
It's only a stock management issue, and they need to fix it.
Ok they don't know what the initial demand for the game will be. But they know they will sell L5R boxes for the next few months. So it doesn't really cost anything to anticipate and order more than is needed for the release, and then manage the stocks well the months following the release.
Edited by Katsutoshi4 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:You have no idea what his responsibilities are, which makes it rude to call them lame. It could be something like being the carer for a parent or child, or working a job which doesn't let him take the time off. Perhaps you should be a bit less aggressive.
No, no. I was trying to be somewhat funny in my post. My apologies if it didn't come out that way.
The point I really was trying to make was that there are lots of reason why some people cannot make it to Gencon. And obviously, any of them are valid. No money, have to work, need to take care of family, etc... I was just merely pointing out the fact that The Laughing Monk's excuse was very vague and almost anyone who is going to Gencon falls in to the category of being an adult with responsibilities. I said it was lame for that reason alone. Not because of what his/her responsibilities may be. I'm absolutely positive that if Laughing Monk could be at Gencon, he/she would be there.
3 hours ago, Katsutoshi said:Ok they don't know what the initial demand for the game will be. But they know they will sell L5R boxes for the next few months. So it doesn't really cost anything to anticipate and order more than is needed for the release, and then manage the stocks well the months following the release.
FFG will always order under their expectations for a new release (evidence = all the releases they have done pretty much forever, and Internet complaints about scarcity), because it costs them money to have product sitting around their warehouse, and they'd rather wait for reprints to come down the production pipeline than lose money by having stock sit around their warehouse unbought. They do not speculate on their own product lines.
That being said, Steve Hovarth has said that their L5R release will be their "biggest ever" for an LCG. What exactly that means we'll have to see; perhaps they'll avoid Destiny-like levels of stock shortage.
3 hours ago, Gaffa said:FFG will always order under their expectations for a new release (evidence = all the releases they have done pretty much forever, and Internet complaints about scarcity), because it costs them money to have product sitting around their warehouse, and they'd rather wait for reprints to come down the production pipeline than lose money by having stock sit around their warehouse unbought. They do not speculate on their own product lines.
That being said, Steve Hovarth has said that their L5R release will be their "biggest ever" for an LCG. What exactly that means we'll have to see; perhaps they'll avoid Destiny-like levels of stock shortage.
If they under order, they will lose money on those not patient enough to wait. If they over order they lose money with product on the shelf. The question is, which will cost more in the long run.
1 hour ago, HidaYama said:If they under order, they will lose money on those not patient enough to wait. If they over order they lose money with product on the shelf. The question is, which will cost more in the long run.
FFG always, always, bets on underordering being the least costly.
You can't guarantee a run on your product, but you can guarantee (and know) just how much a warehouse of unsold games will cost you.
Do they usually do pre-orders for their base game releases?
If you mean at GenCon, the game isn't actually releasing there - there will be a pre release event and a limited amount of product on sale, but L5R isn't on full sale until later in the year.
5 minutes ago, Hinomura said:If you mean at GenCon, the game isn't actually releasing there - there will be a pre release event and a limited amount of product on sale, but L5R isn't on full sale until later in the year.
And if it's like previous years, attendees at GenCon will be limited to one copy of the core set (until supplies vanish).
I'm hoping that is per visit...I have no problem rolling the dice and queueing multiple times 
It will be interesting to see if they print enough to satisfy demands. It seems a lot of Fantasy Flight games and expansions are out of stock or being reprinted.
16 hours ago, Hinomura said:I'm hoping that is per visit...I have no problem rolling the dice and queueing multiple times
First off, if it's at all like the Netrunner release, the lines will be 4 hours long or more. So if you feel like spending your GenCon admission fee standing in line for hours on end not playing games, just to pick up multiple copies of a game that's going to be in general release anyway, that's your call.
Secondly, I'd be surprised if they didn't change things to the way they handled the Arkham Horror LCG prerelease -- they stamp everyone's admission ticket. One box per ticket, period. So it wouldn't matter anyway if you requeued.
Won't be like netrunner's, since you no longer can buy 7 copies at once.
40 minutes ago, Gaffa said:First off, if it's at all like the Netrunner release, the lines will be 4 hours long or more. So if you feel like spending your GenCon admission fee standing in line for hours on end not playing games, just to pick up multiple copies of a game that's going to be in general release anyway, that's your call.
Secondly, I'd be surprised if they didn't change things to the way they handled the Arkham Horror LCG prerelease -- they stamp everyone's admission ticket. One box per ticket, period. So it wouldn't matter anyway if you requeued.
Early access, man. Queues will be significantly shorter for that first hour. Also, ninth GenCon in a row...I'm pretty experienced in how to maximise my fun there
I was able to buy 3 Core Sets of AGoT2 in 2015 (including the one bundled with the Kingslayer tournament). I don't know if I could have bought more, because I didn't try. But I'd be frustrated to be limited to only 1 copy instead of a playset.
On 5/6/2017 at 9:37 AM, Gaffa said:FFG will always order under their expectations for a new release (evidence = all the releases they have done pretty much forever, and Internet complaints about scarcity), because it costs them money to have product sitting around their warehouse, and they'd rather wait for reprints to come down the production pipeline than lose money by having stock sit around their warehouse unbought. They do not speculate on their own product lines.
That being said, Steve Hovarth has said that their L5R release will be their "biggest ever" for an LCG. What exactly that means we'll have to see; perhaps they'll avoid Destiny-like levels of stock shortage.
He also said Destiny was their biggest release ever so I think it means we'll get the standard FFG under-production and delays.