Two-faction Quasar

By Green Knight, in Star Wars: Armada

From the simple fact that the FFG could sell more without designing another mold, I expect we'll see a rebel version with snazzy paint scheme coming in a future wave.

It comes down to this.

FFG creates a loophole for the Quasar. (Not likely, IMO).

Or, FFG releases, at a future date, an expansions with a new paint job or any expansion with the ship card, ship token and all other items for a rebel Quasar.

The question is what makes FFG more money???

It's a tricky one, I know. I'm gonna say an separate expansion with its own price tag.

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7 minutes ago, DUR said:

From the simple fact that the FFG could sell more without designing another mold, I expect we'll see a rebel version with snazzy paint scheme coming in a future wave.

You beat me to the punch. So my previous post is an elaborate ditto... Haha

Fwiw, using Sabine's TIE as an example, besides the fact it came from the same mold, there's nothing about the ship, base, upgrade cards, pilot cards and dial (colors) that is anything except rebel. Everything card related is rebel red. I would assume they would need an entirely new ship card and cardboard to make it match the rest of the rebel fleet.

Just my $0.02

Since we only have 2 factions I am against dual faction ships unless there were ways to make said Rebel version of the ship strikingly different from the Imperial version of the ship. However in that case you might as well just make a different ship.

If so, then we should see the same with the Hammerhead.

After all...in the Rebels episode where they appear - they start off as imperial and are then stolen by the Rebels.

3 hours ago, DUR said:

From the simple fact that the FFG could sell more without designing another mold, I expect we'll see a rebel version with snazzy paint scheme coming in a future wave.

That's my thoughts. I expect we could see a "Ships of the Rebellion and "Ships of the Imperials" where ships like the Quasar could be made Rebel with a Rebel base plate (that is one reason that this likely won't happen right away) and we could even see Imperial Nebs.

I think you underestimate how good FFG is at extracting our money.

The REAL way to get maximum value with minimum investment is to make a new campaign pack called "Lothal Rebellion" or something that includes everything you need to make the quasar a rebel ship. You just made the campaign pack a must-buy for all rebel players who then will also buy a quasar. $$

7 minutes ago, Hastatior said:

I think you underestimate how good FFG is at extracting our money.

The REAL way to get maximum value with minimum investment is to make a new campaign pack called "Lothal Rebellion" or something that includes everything you need to make the quasar a rebel ship. You just made the campaign pack a must-buy for all rebel players who then will also buy a quasar. $$

Needs to have some impetus for the Imperials to purchase.

For shame :D

This was the perfect opportunity to mention Thrawn and the Chimera... again:D

21 hours ago, Democratus said:

If so, then we should see the same with the Hammerhead.

After all...in the Rebels episode where they appear - they start off as imperial and are then stolen by the Rebels.

I am pretty sure they were owned by Alderaan not the Imperials.

21 hours ago, Democratus said:

If so, then we should see the same with the Hammerhead.

After all...in the Rebels episode where they appear - they start off as imperial and are then stolen by the Rebels.

Which episode is that?

Not the one where Leia commands a flotilla of Hammerheads on a relief mission to Lothal.

9 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:

I am pretty sure they were owned by Alderaan not the Imperials.

Alderaan was an imperial planet at the time.

1 minute ago, Democratus said:

Alderaan was an imperial planet at the time.

Alderaanians are known rebels and traitors.

Just now, Green Knight said:

Alderaanians are known rebels and traitors.

True. But the empire is so beneficent that it still considers them imperial property. :D

2 minutes ago, Democratus said:

Alderaan was an imperial planet at the time.

Also, this means that every Alderaan Cruiser is also Imperial

So no Rebel fleet may contain CR90s henceforth.

Just now, Green Knight said:

Also, this means that every Alderaan Cruiser is also Imperial

So no Rebel fleet may contain CR90s henceforth.

No. It means that the Rebels stole CR90s that were previously Imperial.

Thus, if the Rebels get a Quasar because they possessed it once in the show then the Imperials should also get a Hammerhead (and many other ships) since they also possessed them.

That's all I'm saying. :)

I don't think that's how it works :P

1 hour ago, Hastatior said:

I think you underestimate how good FFG is at extracting our money.

The REAL way to get maximum value with minimum investment is to make a new campaign pack called "Lothal Rebellion" or something that includes everything you need to make the quasar a rebel ship. You just made the campaign pack a must-buy for all rebel players who then will also buy a quasar. $$

Yea, you and Dras have the smart way to do it. They could also add in some Hammerhead cards as well for the Imperials

Shut up and take my money.

21 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Shut up and take my money.

That is one of those situations where that can do some silly things. They can give Imperial Nebs that was as well

Heck no. No. I don't ever want any cross faction ships. Just no. You want to play a Quasar, play Empire. You want flying potatoes or pickles, play scum.

Easy enough.

19 minutes ago, Darth Lupine said:

Heck no. No. I don't ever want any cross faction ships. Just no. You want to play a Quasar, play Empire. You want flying potatoes or pickles, play scum.

Easy enough.

Ahhh the diehard

On 4/26/2017 at 11:11 AM, Green Knight said:

Maybe this has been asked before...but here goes: is it conceivable that the face-down upgrade card (the only one between the 2 expansions in wave 6) could actually ba a Title that lets the Quasar join the Rebel side?

It would be unprecedented, but FFG likes to add new Stuff with every wave, so that's not a disqualification (also: Sabine's TIE from X-wing). Also, the Quasar is actually used by both sides ON SCREEN, which is different AFAIK from other ships. So if ever there was to be a dual-faction ship, this would be it, no?

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As resident rules guru Drasnighta has said he believes there's an order to fleet building that begins first by choosing a faction.

Personally I believe that the rules instead create a series of constraints and only the final list is considered for legality.

I also believe that if there is an order to fleet building you would follow the book paragraph by paragraph in which case faction rules come later than upgrade rules, so an upgrade could change the faction of the ship just like an upgrade can add or remove icons.

Also also: cards supercede rules, so if such an upgrade exists, the Emporer "Will make it legal."

It isn't like the rebels NEED the quasar actually.

13 minutes ago, FourDogsInaHorseSuit said:

Also also: cards supercede rules, so if such an upgrade exists, the Emporer "Will make it legal."

Small Note:

He Never Did. :D

He mired it in the courts, which, ironically, is where we are now with it... Mired with no actual guidance either way :D

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