That's right, they are actually neutral cards as opposed to the six-house ones from 5KE. That's where my memory failed. So there actually were some Kingdom locations in the game when Mance came out, even if noone actually used them.

Yep; the problem being that Mance worked off *opponents* running Kingdom locations and these weren't used. I wonder if there are now enough Kingdom locations to do something fun with Heart of the Kingdom and the Bara character whose anti-attachment ability triggers with 3 Kingdom locations?

I was very surprised that neither KoS nor PoS included reprints of the old 5E Kingdom locations. I thought that was a very obvious reprint when Nate was "topping up" the cardpool after the rotation of sets he hadn't expected when he designed the CS and first CPs.

Winter said:

I wasn't. The 2-2-2 would probably be the wrong balance for the LCG, the 2-1-1 were never played much (the potential of raising your opponent's claim instead of just playing Crossroads never computed for most people) and the 0-1-Limited ones are not much use in an environment where each House has their own 0-1-Limited locations back.

I think it was actually a better decision to create all new ones.

I think that the 5KE Kingdom locations were primarily designed to take advantage of the non-neutral agendas. While they are still cool, I agree with ktom. The 2-2-2's are far too powerful for the current LCG environment. At the very least, I would the text abilities from these cards if they were to be reprinted. But I think there are plenty of ways to reinvent the Kingdom locations for the current philosophy of the game.

I would rather see Fallow Fields. Thatt was a nice card for a good price a get good stuff.

I am very missing something to give you +2g od +2INF. The only thing with +2g has lannister and it is a character or littlefinger (core). And nothing to give you +2 inf drives me nuts...

In what AGOT block/expansion can I find that claim replacement mechanics? It is AWESOME!

Max Wax said:

The only claim replacement effects to date are all in the ITE set. Not the entire block; just the ITE "base set." So currently, claim replacement is CCG-only.

ktom said:

No Kevin, don't go giving Reek short shrift. Though, I think his appearance in House of Thorns was the only continued occurence of Claim Replacement in either expansion to ITE.

Maester_LUke said:

Oh, was Reek HoTh? My mistake. But yes, that would be the only non-ITE claim replacement effect to date.

Doesn't change the "currently, claim replacement is CCG-only" conclusion, though.

I actually think the main problem with the Vale, Riverlands, Reach were that they were rares required in every deck. If they were released in CP/Expansion format as fixed cards I see no problem with it, In fact I actually despise both Fallow Fields and Crossroads as they are not worth the cost investment as opposed to the 1 gold chambers and the 0 cost locations.