3 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

People who forgot that Rieekan's effect is optional?

Yeah given he didn't get a special clarification in the FAQ noting his effect is always on, he is at least for the time being still completely optional.

4 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

People who forgot that Rieekan's effect is optional?

Eh...since when? There is no 'may' on the card, nor any text on the card or FAQ document that would seem to indicate it's optional?

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When a friendly ship or friendly unique squadron is destroyed, it remains in the play area and is treated as if it was not destroyed until the end of the Status Phase.

...nothing conditional about that, or requiring a decision, that I can see?

2 minutes ago, xanderf said:

Eh...since when? There is no 'may' on the card, nor any text on the card or FAQ document that would seem to indicate its optional?

...nothing conditional about that, that I can see?

The same reason Jamming Field required an errata to make it mandatory.

RRG 5 EFFECT USE AND TIMING said:

• Resolving an upgrade card effect is optional unless otherwise specified.

10 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

...which is effectively what I said. Nobody here is saying "only pick objectives that harm MSU," most of the advice has been "this is good when your fleet has certain elements" like I said earlier:

It feels like you're fighting against an argument in this thread that isn't even there. Nobody is proposing to use objectives that are otherwise bad for your fleet. That's silly.

The OP was aking what red mission is good against MSU. And this question is silly without any information about the fleet. And it is a question you cannot even answer without some really complex answers.

Basically you have to go through all lists and say what missions are good for this list against MSU And even after this these mission might not be the best choice for each list.
So you have to check around 10-20 List types and 8 Missions.
So 80-160 combinations. I would rather write a book insead of trying to answer this question

... so you showed up in a discussion thread to loudly proclaim you wouldn't be discussing anything in this thread?

1 hour ago, Snipafist said:

Completely agreed that if you're trying to build objectives to punish MSU, Precision Strike is a trap. APTs are very common in MSU fleets (mine uses 2) as an easy out against Precision Strike as well as for their inherent goodness. Even without APTs, most MSU fleets lack the durability to take too many hits to the hull before being destroyed, so they're short-lived points pinatas. Larger ships you can knock Precision Strike points out of all day long.

210 points from Fighter Ambush during my last game. Thanks to enemy Motti ISDs.

As a side note: when can someone decide he is no longer resolving Motti's effect?

8 minutes ago, xanderf said:

Eh...since when? There is no 'may' on the card, nor any text on the card or FAQ document that would seem to indicate it's optional?

...nothing conditional about that, or requiring a decision, that I can see?

The reason for this some stupid writing in the rules. Instead of saying that all effects All card effects are mandatory unless otherwise specifed (with a may or similar), they wrote: " Resolving an upgrade card effect is optional unless otherwise specifed ."

And yes, this was the reason they had o errata the Jamming Field. Because without the "must" it was an optional effect. The same count for Rieekan. Without a "must" it is an optional effect.
Even when it sound stupid and not logical.

20 minutes ago, Tokra said:

Edit: I'm sidetracking the thread. My apologies.

26 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

... so you showed up in a discussion thread to loudly proclaim you wouldn't be discussing anything in this thread?

No. Just to challange if the question is this easy to answer. Or if the question might have asked wrong.

I just say that this question (What is the best red mission against MSU) is not possible to answer. At least not with some more parameters or informations.