3 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

You're not wrong. You're correct.

And by the looks of it that same ship can also activate squads.

The ones placed. Or other squads.

woah

3 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Incorrect. Exactly the opposite it seems.

4 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

This makes no sense. Leia doesn't affect the squadron value.

Doesn't Leia give you the effects of using a matching token?

So squad 2
EHBs +1
Leias token effect +1

4 squadrons?

1 minute ago, thecolourred said:

The RLB CARD says you place squads instead of activating them. the FAQ clarifies that they are not activated when you place them (since you have to activate after you place any squads). The FAQ wording of "When a ship with this card equipped resolves a O command, it can place its set-aside squadrons up to the number it would activate during that O command. " doesn't overwrite the wording of:

"O: For each squadron you would activate with this command, you may instead place 1 of your set-aside squadrons within distance 1."

But it does *clarify* it, so that we know it allows you to place up to your Squadron Value in squads and then also activate all of them.

At least, that seems to be what I'm reading. I wish it was more concise with the language.

Just now, Democratus said:

But it does *clarify* it, so that we know it allows you to place up to your Squadron Value in squads and then also activate all of them.

At least, that seems to be what I'm reading. I wish it was more concise with the language.

it allows you to place up to your squadron value: after fulfilling the cost of the squadron activations that are on the card.

If it was an errata, then they would have replaced the card text. its not, therefore you still have to fulfill the cost.

They should have just added a simple line to the RLB card, "Before you reveal a command, you may place your set aside squads within distance 1 of your ship". Just take the command dial out of the equation all together...

Just now, itzSteve said:

They should have just added a simple line to the RLB card, "Before you reveal a command, you may place your set aside squads within distance 1 of your ship". Just take the command dial out of the equation all together...

except they don't want you placing and activating all the squads...

1 minute ago, thecolourred said:

it allows you to place up to your squadron value: after fulfilling the cost of the squadron activations that are on the card.

If it was an errata, then they would have replaced the card text. its not, therefore you still have to fulfill the cost.

If the FAQ contradicts the card, as it seems in this case, the FAQ takes precedence. In that way it is an errata.

Just now, itzSteve said:

They should have just added a simple line to the RLB card, "Before you reveal a command, you may place your set aside squads within distance 1 of your ship". Just take the command dial out of the equation all together...

Yeah, but they wanted you to use a squadron command for that.

What would have been simpler was to make us discard the card and place all the squadrons, without the use of a squadron command.

1 minute ago, Sybreed said:

Yeah, but they wanted you to use a squadron command for that.

What would have been simpler was to make us discard the card and place all the squadrons, without the use of a squadron command.

Same thing in my book...

2 hours ago, Darth Sanguis said:

Rapid Launch Bays

"When a ship with this card equipped resolves a (squad) command, it can place its set-aside squadrons up to the number it would activate during that (squad) command. After the squadrons are placed, they can be activated (one at a time) as part of that (squad) command, but cannot move."

This doesn't say must, so that means if you wanted to just place them, without activating them, you could. The use another ship to push them?

More than that it means you can throw out your docked fighters then use your command to activate another set of fighters, in effect a ISD 1 with expanded bays and a token can bring eleven fighers into shoot in one round......

• Choose:

1. Place squadrons set aside up to your squadron value. These squadrons are deactivated and cannot move.

Activate any squadron you placed as part of this squadron command.

2. Activate any other squadron in table as normal.

3. Place squadrons set aside and/or activate squadrons in table up to your squadron value.

Activate any squadron you placed as part of this squadron command.

Really, they should have just released a sample...


Everyone sees the world through the drunk goggles of perspective, and adding words sometimes only makes it worse....

8 minutes ago, Democratus said:

If the FAQ contradicts the card, as it seems in this case, the FAQ takes precedence. In that way it is an errata.

The FAQ does not contradict the card, it is clarifying the timing of the card. None of the FAQ wording contradicts the wording on the card.

Just now, thecolourred said:

The FAQ does not contradict the card, it is clarifying the timing of the card. None of the FAQ wording contradicts the wording on the card.

That entirely depends on how you parse the FAQ.

That's the issue. It's unclear and allows many different readings.

Soooooo is this like 5 pages of RLB discussion happening? Again?

Idea: someone who is attending Worlds in 2 week, put RLB in your list and attempt to move other squadrons...see what happens.

That should give us an answer.

that is how we learned that bomber command stacked.

2 minutes ago, mcworrell said:

Idea: someone who is attending Worlds in 2 week, put RLB in your list and attempt to move other squadrons...see what happens.

That should give us an answer.

Can the person who does this also tell Gernes to put an example of how the card works in the "card clarifications" part of the FAQ?

2 minutes ago, mcworrell said:

Idea: someone who is attending Worlds in 2 week, put RLB in your list and attempt to move other squadrons...see what happens.

That should give us an answer.

that is how we learned that bomber command stacked.

Wasn't this also how we learned that Snipe does NOT work if you are engaged (which was then completely flipped by the FAQ)?

8 minutes ago, Democratus said:

That entirely depends on how you parse the FAQ.

That's the issue. It's unclear and allows many different readings.

It really doesn't.

But, then, I haven't seen a good explanation from the '...and then you get to activate up to your squadron value of UNRELATED squadrons' crowd as to what they are doing with the 'you may instead' on the original card.

Like, if their argument is correct - what does that 'you may instead' mean?

1 minute ago, Democratus said:

Wasn't this also how we learned that Snipe does NOT work if you are engaged (which was then completely flipped by the FAQ)?

But now we have an FAQ, which means you can ask for clarification about that. Where as before, we did not have one and he was grasping at straws to give us an answer. He can't overrule the FAQ now that it is out, unless it happens in the next one.

Just now, xanderf said:

It really doesn't.

By definition, it does. Because you and I are reading it differently.

1 minute ago, Democratus said:

By definition, it does. Because you and I are reading it differently.

Then explain what 'you may instead' means, if it doesn't mean replacing the regular activation ability.

Well... I just found out there's a limit of likes I can give per day.... what if I like more than 50 things in a day? Lame....

on a side note this is the longest thread I've ever made

*Continues to pretend he posted a helpful and thoughtful contribution to the Armada community*

what I wonder is : Why is there only 1 guy working on Armada right now?

I thought the 3rd best selling miniatures game deserved a bit more resources than that.

I'm not trying to **** on M. Gernes, but he seems to be overloaded with work.

Also a bit more interactions from FFG would be nice... but I'm used to Cthulhu Wars and having Sandy Petersen himself participate in forum threads, so I guess I'm spoiled here.