Reys parentage

By Teloch, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

So here are my thoughts on Rey's parentage.

Rey is Luke Skywalkers daughter AND Kylo Ren's brother. Boom!

Kylo Ren is actually Ben Solo. But why would Han and Leia name their child after Ben Kenobi? Leia never actually met him, only heard about him in passing from her dad and knew his name as Obi-Wan not Ben. Han Solo met him as Ben, and his entire interaction with him was to call him a hokey old space wizard and insult his religion. They had no business naming their son Ben. Luke on the other hand loved Obi-Wan like a father figure. So my theory is Luke had twins, Rey and Ben. For plot reasons he had to give them up, and Han and Leia adopted Ben. When they discovered he was force sensitive (probally by force choking puppies) they sent him back to Luke to be trained and he went to the dark side.

This would bring back the Jaina/Jacen twins plot line from legends which it seems like it was already going to with Rey and Kylo.

The kid is named Ben because JJ is lazy and it was a cheap way to throw another call back into TFA.

Rey being Luke or the Solo's child will have a non-zero chance of inciting me to violence. Rey at best can be the lone survivor of Ren's attack on Luke's school (if that is in fact what we were presented with in TFA.) She had already had some degree of Jedi training. They did some sort of mind wipe and hid her away on Tatooine... errr... Jakku.

This would remove some of her Mary Sue-ness. It would be lazy but it would be acceptable and not a groan inducing "Really?" moment (or an actual rage inducing walk out of the theater moment) like making her the abandoned child of our heroes. If they've got something better fine but Rey being an abandoned child of an OT character would not be acceptable.

Not acceptable, say like TFA being ANH almost scene for scene?

Ben's dad is a scruffy-looking nerf-herder...

Daisy Ridley has gone on record multiple times saying that "it's obvious in Force Awakens who Rey's parents are."

If that is the case we can knock out some of the usual suspects.

We can cross off Chewie or any other Alien since she is clearly human.

We can cross off Kenobi, since he wasn't in TFA. Also, just because they have the same accent is irrelevant; accents are hereditary.

we can cross off Luke since she said we should know who her parents are. Parents plural. If Luke is the father, who is the mother? While Leia would contribute to the running gag of their incestuous relationship, I really doubt Disney would go for that.

That leaves us with Han and Leia. Rey Solo is their youngest daughter and Ben Solo/Kyle Ren's Little sister.

After Ben turned to the dark side, they decided to hide her away so she too couldn't be corrupted. Possibly even announcing she had died in the Temple attack.

Han took off on his own, partially out of grief and guilt... but also so he could keep an eye on her. It was awful convenient for him to show up when he did in TFA; unless he took odd jobs in the area so he could be near her.

Why did neither of them tell her? That would be a pretty Heavy and awkward conversation at the best of times, let alone in the middle of a crisis. Better to play it low key till the time is right.

There are still times you can see a connection. The fatherly way Han looks at Rey. Leia giving her a hug even though they had just met.

What Daisey is saying could be misdirection, but I won't be suprised if she turns out to be a Solo.

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10 hours ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

Daisy Ridley has gone on record multiple times saying that "it's obvious in Force Awakens who Rey's parents are."

If that is the case we can knock out some of the usual suspects.

We can cross off Chewie or any other Alien since she is clearly human.

We can cross off Kenobi, since he wasn't in TFA. Also, just because they have the same accent is irrelevant; accents are hereditary.

we can cross off Luke since she said we should know who her parents are. Parents plural. If Luke is the father, who is the mother? While Leia would contribute to the running gag of their incestuous relationship, I really doubt Disney would go for that.

That leaves us with Han and Leia. Rey Solo is their youngest daughter and Ben Solo/Kyle Ren's Little sister.

After Ben turned to the dark side, they decided to hide her away so she too couldn't be corrupted. Possibly even announcing she had died in the Temple attack.

Han took off on his own, partially out of grief and guilt... but also so he could keep an eye on her. It was awful convenient for him to show up when he did in TFA; unless he took odd jobs in the area so he could be near her.

Why did neither of them tell her? That would be a pretty Heavy and awkward conversation at the best of times, let alone in the middle of a crisis. Better to play it low key till the time is right.

There are still times you can see a connection. The fatherly way Han looks at Rey. Leia giving her a hug even though they had just met.

What Daisey is saying could be misdirection, but I won't be suprised if she turns out to be a Solo.

So after loosing their son they decided to just ditch their remaining child and go childless? And then spend the next however long looking for their son and ignoring their daughter? I just don't buy that anymore than I buy her being another "child of the force" like Anakin

Luke and Mara Jade.

Mara runs off, split loyalties and issues and so on. She finds shes pregnant and hides on a backwater world for a while, well away from the new republic.

15 hours ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

Daisy Ridley has gone on record multiple times saying that "it's obvious in Force Awakens who Rey's parents are."

Are you familiar with the art of trolling, by any chance?

1 hour ago, Hockeyzombie said:

Are you familiar with the art of trolling, by any chance?

Like when Kit Harrington told everyone Jon Snow wasn't comming back? lol

50 minutes ago, Teloch said:

Like when Kit Harrington told everyone Jon Snow wasn't comming back? lol

Exactly. When Daisy said that it was "incredibly obvious" my first thought was that she was just joking around. It seems to be working, since there are a few plausible theories as to who her family is (Rey Skywalker and Rey Solo being the strongest so far) and both seem obvious, but in a "no that's too obvious" way. SO people who believe either theory can interpret her comment as confirmation that they were right, while people that don't think she's a Skywalker or a Solo can still take it as evidence towards their guesses. Top level shenanigans, really.

I did see people on Imgur speculating that she's an Antilles, but how many of them were kidding is hard to determine. Someone remarked that she's an amazing pilot and added "who else was an amazing pilot," either forgetting that Luke and Han both qualify or deliberately being vague because they both qualify. People followed that up by basically listing every good pilot in Star Wars, including Sebulba.

As for me I actually don't care much either way, the movies will get there when they get there. I don't think we have enough information to actually figure it out, just enough to make stabs in the dark. I do kind of like the idea that Obi Wan is her grandfather but that would require an explanation on how Obi Wan of all people wound up having a kid. I also kind of like the idea of her being an Antilles but that may be my fanboyism rising up a bit.

4 hours ago, Hockeyzombie said:

Are you familiar with the art of trolling, by any chance?

I did mention it could be misdirection. That would include trolling.

On 4/21/2017 at 9:04 AM, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

Daisy Ridley has gone on record multiple times saying that "it's obvious in Force Awakens who Rey's parents are."

If that is the case we can knock out some of the usual suspects.

We can cross off Chewie or any other Alien since she is clearly human.

We can cross off Kenobi, since he wasn't in TFA. Also, just because they have the same accent is irrelevant; accents are hereditary.

we can cross off Luke since she said we should know who her parents are. Parents plural. If Luke is the father, who is the mother? While Leia would contribute to the running gag of their incestuous relationship, I really doubt Disney would go for that.

That leaves us with Han and Leia. Rey Solo is their youngest daughter and Ben Solo/Kyle Ren's Little sister.

After Ben turned to the dark side, they decided to hide her away so she too couldn't be corrupted. Possibly even announcing she had died in the Temple attack.

Han took off on his own, partially out of grief and guilt... but also so he could keep an eye on her. It was awful convenient for him to show up when he did in TFA; unless he took odd jobs in the area so he could be near her.

Why did neither of them tell her? That would be a pretty Heavy and awkward conversation at the best of times, let alone in the middle of a crisis. Better to play it low key till the time is right.

There are still times you can see a connection. The fatherly way Han looks at Rey. Leia giving her a hug even though they had just met.

What Daisey is saying could be misdirection, but I won't be suprised if she turns out to be a Solo.

Also, listen to the music which plays when Rey meets Leia. I believe it is the same music (or very similar) to that of when Leia finds out that she is Luke's sister.

Nah, she's Anakin Skywalker's clone. Snoke clones her from tissue years after the Emperor's death, but she's stolen away and hidden, hence the lack of memories as she was dropped off at Jakku shortly after she was awoken/stolen.

In order to further mirror the original trilogy, the dramatic climax of Last Jedi will be Kylo telling Rey that he is her father. There will be a big laugh when Daisy Ridley screams, "That's impossible!"

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Eh! How did you stay, uh?

Did you imagine the same with Luke instead of Anakin's mother?

:P

Okay... shot in the dark here...

Luke Skywalker, grandmaster of the Jedi order, 10 years after the fall of the empire senses the impending destruction of the Jedi through the force but does not know when or how...

Worried that the combined strength of his students, who are mostly teenagers and children at the time, would falter under this unseen threat, he secretly attempted to cultivate the perfect force user through the manipulation of midiclorians, exactly as Plagueis had...

Keeping her secret she was raised off world by friends until she was old enough to begin training as Jedi.

5 years later, while Rey was only 4 years old, Ben Solo, then 15, turned to the darkside, and with the help of the knights of Ren destroyed the Jedi order as it were.

Luke having been with the people keeping rey, senses Kylo Ren's betrayal and sends them to deliver her....

He returns to his Jedi temple in time to see Kylo and the knight of Ren burn it down...

The people that raised Rey, concerned for Luke's safety , flew out to him after delivering Rey to the outerrim....

During the ensuing conflict these two sacrifice themselves to let Luke escape and bide for time....


15 years later...

The force awakens...

Now Luke is planning on using his perfect force user, more powerful than Anakin Skywalker, to eliminate the ongoing conflict between the light and dark.



On 4/22/2017 at 4:20 AM, Hockeyzombie said:

I do kind of like the idea that Obi Wan is her grandfather but that would require an explanation on how Obi Wan of all people wound up having a kid.

Sounds like the perfect occasion for a one-off Obi-Wan movie....

That's were my bet is, he had an accent, which means if his kid was around at all he/she'd likely have learned it from Obiwan, meaning he/she'd have passed it down to rey who was at least 3 or 4 when she was abandoned...

The most compelling evidence in my opinion is the direct manner in which Obiwan, a since long dead Jedi, calls her by name through the force... having never met her...

For that to be random it would make as much sense as Qui-gon or even Anakin talking to her...

On 2017-4-22 at 10:20 AM, Hockeyzombie said:

I do kind of like the idea that Obi Wan is her grandfather but that would require an explanation on how Obi Wan of all people wound up having a kid.

Easy:

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Anakin misunderstood what was happening there.

:D

Ray Bridger, perhaps?

https://youtu.be/eQ42RydMt_c?t=82

Looks kinda like a phantom style shuttle.

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On 4/24/2017 at 5:47 PM, AegisGrimm said:

Nah, she's Anakin Skywalker's clone. Snoke clones her from tissue years after the Emperor's death, but she's stolen away and hidden, hence the lack of memories as she was dropped off at Jakku shortly after she was awoken/stolen.

I've been thinking about this, and have been wondering: is she Luke's clone? There was a hand attached to that Lightsaber. Plenty of DNA to make a clone.

I think she has to be Luke's kid. What's her name alien lady talks about how the Lightsaber was once Anakin's, then it passed to Luke, now it "calls to you" or something dumb like that. That convinced me she had to be Luke's daughter.

I just really hope this next movie is better. The more I think about TFA the more I think how dumb a Death Star III is. I mean I think the argument is valid that two might be too many...

1 hour ago, Tiberius the Killer said:

I think she has to be Luke's kid. What's her name alien lady talks about how the Lightsaber was once Anakin's, then it passed to Luke, now it "calls to you" or something dumb like that. That convinced me she had to be Luke's daughter.

I just really hope this next movie is better. The more I think about TFA the more I think how dumb a Death Star III is. I mean I think the argument is valid that two might be too many...

From a storytelling standpoint, I totally agree.

There has to be another good Star Wars story besides, "Blow up the killer sphere".

5 minutes ago, Democratus said:

From a storytelling standpoint, I totally agree.

There has to be another good Star Wars story besides, "Blow up the killer sphere".

Well, the most cynical point out that this is ESB-II. So in this case, the Good Guys do most of the Blowing up and Running Away.

Finally Win the Day against the Biggest Superweapon is the next episode!

Did you all forget about that leak from the Disney game in which Kylo yells "Fight me cousin!" At Rey? She's definitely Luke's kid.

I'm hoping though that she is both a Skywalker and a Kenobi. It's all but confirmed that Obi-Wan and Dutchess Satine were intimate, what if their child became Luke's lover and they created Rey-Wan-Skywalker.

It's a stretch, but it would be cool

And so one of the greatest epic of all times turns into a ridicukous soap opera within 2 films thanks to Mickey Mouse and JJ "I respect Gene Roddenberry hence I remove everything from Trek he loved" Abrams....