Spoiled Cards List

By Tonbo Karasu, in Legend of the Five Rings: The Card Game

There will definitely be spells, those were confirmed.

@Rinder5 well I can't really make that judgement until we have more info :(

@Mig el Pig they have indeed, which is why I restricted my breakdown to 'Dynasty' and 'Conflict' :)

1 minute ago, Myrion said:

There will definitely be spells, those were confirmed.

Spells as card type or as keyword?

Because you can have a spell keyword on an attachment card (may only be attached to a shugenja) then voila you got some spells in the game.

@Tonbo Karasu Fair point

Oh. I dunno. They simply confirmed that there will be spells and kiho.

3 minutes ago, Myrion said:

Oh. I dunno. They simply confirmed that there will be spells and kiho.

Then my guess is that spells is a keyword on an attachment card and kiho is a keyword on an event cards (like modern events, which are strategies/actions not like old events).

The Kiho card type was basically killed by AEG with the start of Samurai and the Spell card type could have also been killed in favor of attachments.

Edited by Yandia

Fair enough. It's certainly a reasonable guess.

The name of the Daidoji looks more like Morishima than Nerishima to me.

Just now, Yoritomo Reiu said:

The name of the Daidoji looks more like Morishima than Nerishima to me.

Nerishima hasn't been confirmed, but it seems highly likely to me, given that it was the name for a memorial card of a player who passed on, and wasn't published before AEG sold the IP.

1 minute ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

Nerishima hasn't been confirmed, but it seems highly likely to me, given that it was the name for a memorial card of a player who passed on, and wasn't published before AEG sold the IP.

Fair enough. I guess I was thrown off because the capital N's are backwards in the chosen font.

I think you got all of them so far, but here's a collection I stumbled across of all the pictures of cards so far.

So, a Dragon-aligned Agasha Swordsmith is in the core. Which means he'll remain legal forever.

Sorry Phoenix, looks like Agasha's stuck with Dragon from now on out. Get your fourth family from somewhere else, birdies.

3 minutes ago, Smobey said:

So, a Dragon-aligned Agasha Swordsmith is in the core. Which means he'll remain legal forever.

Sorry Phoenix, looks like Agasha's stuck with Dragon from now on out. Get your fourth family from somewhere else, birdies.

Meh, three is fine. We don't need any Dragon imports :)

1 hour ago, Smobey said:

So, a Dragon-aligned Agasha Swordsmith is in the core. Which means he'll remain legal forever.

Sorry Phoenix, looks like Agasha's stuck with Dragon from now on out. Get your fourth family from somewhere else, birdies.

Remaining legal forever does not mean that the rest of the Agasha wil not join other clan later. :P Not that I like the idea of families switching clans like if they changed kimonos.<_<

1 hour ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

Meh, three is fine. We don't need any Dragon imports :)

Do not worry, Phoenix friend, we the Unicorn will overcompensate with six families*. Even if one of them is a single person.:lol:

* probably. Depends on FFG reboots

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1 minute ago, Wintersong said:

Do not worry, Phoenix friend, we the Unicorn will overcompensate with six families*. Even if one of them is a single person.:lol:

* probably. Depends on FFG retcons

It's things like this that are bringing confusion to the Spiritual landscape of the Empire, and causing the kami to be unpredictable.

There is nothing assuring you that you can build a legal deck out of 1 core box. If I recall correctly, Game of Thrones 2.0 had you take 2 factions, combine them together and then add some neutral cards to get you to the card limit. This deck is illegal in all competitive formats. Also, if we use Thrones core as a model, expect singles of all but 1 clan cards (which you get 2 of that card), and doubles of most neutral cards with 4 copies of the most used locations.

Finally, I took the 250 card comment in the AMA to mean 250 different cards, not the total card count in the box. What are the usual counts for different cards in the other FFG LCGs?

6 hours ago, Smobey said:

So, a Dragon-aligned Agasha Swordsmith is in the core. Which means he'll remain legal forever.

Sorry Phoenix, looks like Agasha's stuck with Dragon from now on out. Get your fourth family from somewhere else, birdies.

I'm personally hoping that just because the cards in the core box are legal forever doesn't mean that the story status quo as represented on those cards is in effect forever.

250 is the total card count. The product page (https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/legend-of-the-five-rings-the-card-game/products/legend-five-rings-card-game/) shows the number of 50-sleeve sleeve packs necessary to sleeve all the included cards. 5 regular packs + 1 pack for the honor/dishonor minicards, which means between 200 and 250 regular cards, most likely close to 250.

I've been doing some math with card and faction card distribution and it doesn't seem likely at all that you'll be able to build two legal 40/40 card decks with just one cose set. My guess is the recommended starter deck will be 30/30 cards or something like that. It could also be the case that you have to mix two clans to make a starter deck (similar lo agot) but i doubt it, since clan identity is so important.

Yeah, if i was to make a guess the Box will have about 30 Clan specific cards and about 40 neutral cards some of them duplicated. So out of the box you will be able to make 2 30-30 Clan decks by using the 30 Clan cards, 20 neutral cards and 10 out of clan cards (per the rumored "influence" system).

16 hours ago, JRosen9 said:

If I recall correctly, Game of Thrones 2.0 had you take 2 factions, combine them together and then add some neutral cards to get you to the card limit. This deck is illegal in all competitive formats. Also, if we use Thrones core as a model, expect singles of all but 1 clan cards (which you get 2 of that card), and doubles of most neutral cards with 4 copies of the most used locations.

That was the format for the demo decks (the box needed to support 4 at the same time) and the demo tournaments (which needed to offer some deckbuilding beyond choosing factions). There are 20 cards for each faction in that box, 12-15 of which are usable out of faction, and 28 usable neutral cards (excluding the 4th copy of economy locations) for the main deck (there are plenty of plots). So it's just barely possible to make 1 legal deck out of 1 AGoT2 Core Set.

My numbers were wrong. I'll be updating the lists soon (I hope).

On 4/24/2017 at 11:02 AM, Yoritomo Reiu said:

The name of the Daidoji looks more like Morishima than Nerishima to me.

l5c01_daidoji-nerishma.png

1 minute ago, Kakita Shiro said:

l5c01_daidoji-nerishma.png

Yeah, I already admitted I was wrong, so...?

4 minutes ago, Yoritomo Reiu said:

Yeah, I already admitted I was wrong, so...?

I think it is Nerishina

Man I am starting to hate that font.

1 minute ago, Mirith said:

I think it is Nerishina

Man I am starting to hate that font.

No, it's a "m". Compare to the "i" earlier in the card name.

Edited by KerenRhys