I wouldn't mind Ujimitsu stepping down, either due to ~Shiba's Wlll~ or ~Crippling Wounds~ and being an advisor to Tsukune.
Or if he has to die, turn him into badass Ancestor Mentor, Obi-Wan Ghost style.
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Personally, I'm going to wait until there is an English preview of these cards before drawing any conclusions. Mirumoto Prodigy shows with different stats than the one previewed on the product page.
The version of Mirumoto Prodigy shown in the early news lacks the letter (C or D) before the number, to indicate which deck it goes into. Therefore, it's not the final version. We don't see that part of the card in the French news, but on the card we see in full (the Battle Maiden), we can see it is there. Therefore, it's a more recent version.
10 minutes ago, Khudzlin said:The version of Mirumoto Prodigy shown in the early news lacks the letter (C or D) before the number, to indicate which deck it goes into. Therefore, it's not the final version. We don't see that part of the card in the French news, but on the card we see in full (the Battle Maiden), we can see it is there. Therefore, it's a more recent version.
Possible, however, it wouldn't be the first time I've seen mistakes sent to whoever does the other language cards for card games. Its why the tournament rules typically state that the English wording of cards is the correct ruling. Also, with as fast as FFG has made corrections to their news articles, it would surprise me if they left something like that up this long if it was incorrect.
I would also like to point out that the framing is wrong on the unicorn card. The L5R logo that appears on all the cards is too far to the right and partially cut off. The same is true for the Lion card above it. In all the other cards the logo is much further to the left.
Edited by JRosen91 minute ago, JRosen9 said:Possible, however, it wouldn't be the first time I've seen mistakes sent to whoever does the other language cards for card games. Its why the tournament rules typically state that the English wording of cards is the correct ruling. Also, with as fast as FFG has made corrections to their news articles, it would surprise me if they left something like that up this long if it was incorrect.
Sure, there might be a mistake in the translated version. However, a mistake on a number would come from an incorrect version being sent to the translators, since numbers are unchanged (at least in the French translation). Also, the news where Mirumoto Prodigy first appears is the very first with card images, and none of them have been changed, even though some card numbers have changed since.
9 minutes ago, JRosen9 said:Possible, however, it wouldn't be the first time I've seen mistakes sent to whoever does the other language cards for card games. Its why the tournament rules typically state that the English wording of cards is the correct ruling. Also, with as fast as FFG has made corrections to their news articles, it would surprise me if they left something like that up this long if it was incorrect.
I would also like to point out that the framing is wrong on the unicorn card. The L5R logo that appears on all the cards is too far to the right and partially cut off. The same is true for the Lion card above it. In all the other cards the logo is much further to the left.
I agree with you that that whole fan is weird and suspicious (another change is that Borderlands Defender now has flavor text). That said, as pointed out by Khudzlin, they don't really seem to want to update the images in the original article. I've been waiting for ever for them to change the "Shiro no Yojin" there to the current Yojin no Shiro.
1 hour ago, WHW said:I wouldn't mind Ujimitsu stepping down, either due to ~Shiba's Wlll~ or ~Crippling Wounds~ and being an advisor to Tsukune.
Or if he has to die, turn him into badass Ancestor Mentor, Obi-Wan Ghost style.
Well, the Soul of Shiba would essenrialy make Ujimitsu a part of her along with every other champ back to Shiba. So they're elements of line 2 built in.
unless my understanding of the Soul is incorrect
4 minutes ago, Zalari said:I agree with you that that whole fan is weird and suspicious (another change is that Borderlands Defender now has flavor text). That said, as pointed out by Khudzlin, they don't really seem to want to update the images in the original article. I've been waiting for ever for them to change the "Shiro no Yojin" there to the current Yojin no Shiro.
I'm not saying that these cards aren't official. I'm just saying to hold off on taking them as gospel. There are lot of just small oddities with these cards to just accept anything from them right now. If it didn't show up on an FFG affliate site I would have called it a bad photoshop job.
55 minutes ago, JRosen9 said:I'm not saying that these cards aren't official. I'm just saying to hold off on taking them as gospel. There are lot of just small oddities with these cards to just accept anything from them right now. If it didn't show up on an FFG affliate site I would have called it a bad photoshop job.
That I agree with.
2 hours ago, Kuni Katsuyoshi said:Well, the Soul of Shiba would essenrialy make Ujimitsu a part of her along with every other champ back to Shiba. So they're elements of line 2 built in.
unless my understanding of the Soul is incorrect
It's a storyline reboot. Don't assume that the Soul of Shiba even exists until we know otherwise.
One thing to point out about Ujimitsu vs Tsukune is that the original announcement article for L5R (http://drafts.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/4/19/legend-of-the-five-rings-the-card-game/) they explicitly called Ujimitsu the Phoenix Clan Champion:
"Phoenix Clan Champion Shiba Ujimitsu must prepare to defend his clan’s borders while the prayers of the Phoenix’s mystical shugenja go awry."
In the same article, they deftly dodge calling Arasou the Lion Clan Champion, however, likely due to his planned death:
"The Scorpion maintain a tenuous alliance with the Lion Clan’s leader, Akodo Arasou, who seeks to carry out an age-old vendetta against the Crane at the side of his beloved, the warrior Matsu Tsuko."
It also lists Doji Hotaru as the Crane Clan Champion, as well as every other clan's champion (including Toturi, who gets name dropped but not called champion), and doesn't mention Tsukune at all. It's not 100% by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a piece of evidence there.
2 hours ago, Gaffa said:It's a storyline reboot. Don't assume that the Soul of Shiba even exists until we know otherwise.
Truth
imo The SoS is the chapions only balancer against the council. Unless they change the dynamics between them, of course. Plus it plays directly into the whole phoenix/rebirth theme.
Im going wth the 'Black Swan' argument on this until I hear differently
We have the complete Lions \o/
28 minutes ago, Yandia said:We have the complete Lions \o/
Indeed. But give me a moment, I just spent the last 3 hours running a BB parents' night...
Okay, opening post updated 
An interesting point:
- Crane Clan average character: Cost: 2.5 Skill: 1.5M, 2.5P Glory 1.5
- Lion Clan average character: Cost: 2.5 Skill: 2.2M, 1.5P Glory 1.5
Yes they mirrored the two clans pretty hard, but I like it.
What I find hilarious is that we know all cards from the Lion but not all cards from the Crane.
32 minutes ago, Yandia said:Yes they mirrored the two clans pretty hard, but I like it.
What I find hilarious is that we know all cards from the Lion but not all cards from the Crane.
I would say we know just as much of the Crane that we do of the Lion. There is no indication of the stats on Ikoma Prodigy whatsoever. Where as the two missing crane cards (Political Rival and Something Scout) you can make out their stats but not their abilities.
Is there a known card that can REMOVE an attachment?
i.e. destroy or remove target attachment
Not yet, as far as I know, but the Miya Mystic seems to be able to move them around. There's only part of its text revealed so it's hard to say.
See.
Okay quite a set of weird french beta cards
Imperial Storehouse a neutral holding was part of it. Very interesting.
Also there were banner for each clan depicting the Champion Shiba Tsukune was depicted for the Phoenix Clan. So I guess that confirms that Ujimitsu will not be in the base set as the Champion.
9 hours ago, Yandia said:Okay quite a set of weird french beta cards
Imperial Storehouse a neutral holding was part of it. Very interesting.
Also there were banner for each clan depicting the Champion Shiba Tsukune was depicted for the Phoenix Clan. So I guess that confirms that Ujimitsu will not be in the base set as the Champion.
Yep indeed. Not 100% positive what number that Imperial Storehouse is, although I am 99% sure the Seppun is 123.
And I am now resigned to no Ujimitsu.
Full update coming tomorrow evening
In the recent reveal from the French thing there was a card type that was going to be like the Sensei's of old. Something that sits next to the stronghold, forget the card type. Where will this factor in?
13 hours ago, Tonbo Karasu said:Yep indeed. Not 100% positive what number that Imperial Storehouse is, although I am 99% sure the Seppun is 123.
And I am now resigned to no Ujimitsu.
Full update coming tomorrow evening
We can safely say that Imperial Storehouse is either card #128 or card #129 because we know for a fact that there is a second neutral holding (it's in the product showcase page image, over on the Lion side of the board). We can't read that other holding but we can say that the art is not the same as Imperial Storehouse's art. One of these two cards could potentially be card #130, but if that's the case then Crab are getting only 8 total conflict cards and that seems exceedingly unlikely to me.
One card not mentioned yet in this thread is the Ornate Fan, which is the last neutral attachment, also spoiled from the French event. We don't have the full card, but it's visible peeking off the side of the Miya Mystic in the second picture. That would be card #201.
On 6/12/2017 at 1:52 PM, Khift said:One thing to point out about Ujimitsu vs Tsukune is that the original announcement article for L5R (http://drafts.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/4/19/legend-of-the-five-rings-the-card-game/) they explicitly called Ujimitsu the Phoenix Clan Champion:
He is also name dropped as the Phoenix Champion in the dragon fiction from last Wednesday.