Spoiled Cards List

By Tonbo Karasu, in Legend of the Five Rings: The Card Game

Hi,

So, I quite like tabulating stuff and have thus put together a Google sheet of what we've seen so far

This is the sheet: Google Doc

If decided to move the number of spoiled cards onto a table too:

Spoiled Partial Minimal Missing Total
Crab 24 2 26
Crane 25 1 26
Dragon 24 1 25
Lion 26 26
Phoenix 22 1 1 26
Scorpion 23 1 2 26
Unicorn 25 25
Neutral 25 3 2 30
Total 196 6 8 210


This comes from the articles, comments made during Q&As, named artwork and spoilers at other sites.

No Name Clan Deck Type Traits Keywords
1 Shiro Nishiyama * Crab Stronghold Castle
2 Shizuka Toshi * Crane Stronghold City
3 Mountain's Anvil Castle* Dragon Stronghold Castle
4 Yojin no Shiro * Lion Stronghold Castle
5 Isawa Mori Seido * Phoenix Stronghold Shrine
6 City of the Open Hand * Scorpion Stronghold City
7 Golden Plains Outpost * Unicorn Stronghold Outpost
8 Defend the Wall Crab Province Earth
9 The Art of Peace Crane Province Air
10 Restoration of Balance Dragon Province Fire
11 The Art of War Lion Province Water
12 Kuroi Mori Phoenix Province Void
13 Secret Cache Scorpion Province Air
14 Endless Plains Unicorn Province Water
15 Ancestral Lands Neutral Province Earth
16 Elemental Fury Neutral Province Water
17 Entrenched Position Neutral Province Earth
18 Fertile Fields Neutral Province Air
19 Manicured Gardens Neutral Province Air
20 Meditations on the Tao Neutral Province Fire
21 Night Raid Neutral Province Fire
22 Pilgrimage Neutral Province Void
23 Rally to the Cause Neutral Province Water
24 Shameful Display Neutral Province Void
25 Eager Scout Crab Dynasty Character Bushi Scout
26 Hida Guardian Crab Dynasty Character Bushi
27 Kaiu Envoy Crab Dynasty Character Bushi Courtesy Sincerity
28 Hiruma Yojimbo Crab Dynasty Character Bushi Yojimbo
29 Shrewd Yasuki Crab Dynasty Character Courtier
30 Vanguard Warrior Crab Dynasty Character
31 Borderlands Defender Crab Dynasty Character Bushi
32 Intimidating Hida Crab Dynasty Character Bushi
33 Vengeful Berserker Crab Dynasty Character Bushi Berserker
34 Hida Tomonatsu * Crab Dynasty Character Bushi
35 Steadfast Witchhunter Crab Dynasty Character Shugenja Earth
36 Kaiu Shuichi * Crab Dynasty Character Bushi Engineer Covert
37 Hida Kisada * Crab Dynasty Character Bushi Champion
38 Borderlands Fortifications Crab Dynasty Holding Battleground
39 Funeral Pyre Crab Dynasty Holding Ritual
40 Asahina Artisan Crane Dynasty Character Shugenja Air
41 Doji Whisperer Crane Dynasty Character Courtier
42 Brash Samurai Crane Dynasty Character Bushi
43 Cautious Scout Crane Dynasty Character Bushi Scout
44 Doji Gift Giver Crane Dynasty Character Courtier
45 Savvy Politician Crane Dynasty Character Courtier
46 Daidoji Nerishma * Crane Dynasty Character Bushi
47 Doji Challenger Crane Dynasty Character Bushi Duellist
48 Kakita Asami * Crane Dynasty Character Courtier
49 Kakita Kaezin * Crane Dynasty Character Bushi Duellist Kenshinzen
50 Asahina Storyteller Crane Dynasty Character Courtier Shugenja Air Sincerity
51 Guest of Honour Crane Dynasty Character Courtier
52 Doji Hotaru * Crane Dynasty Character Bushi Champion
53 Artisan Academy Crane Dynasty Holding Academy
54 Doomed Shugenja Dragon Dynasty Character Shugenja Fire Limited
55 Togashi Initiate Dragon Dynasty Character Monk Tattooed
56 Agasha Swordsmith Dragon Dynasty Character Shugenja Fire
57 Mirumoto Prodigy Dragon Dynasty Character Bushi Duellist
58 Niten Adept Dragon Dynasty Character Bushi
59 Seeker of Enlightenment Dragon Dynasty Character Monk Tattooed
60 Enlightened Warrior Dragon Dynasty Character Bushi
61 Kitsuki Investigator Dragon Dynasty Character Courtier
62 Mirumoto Raitsugu* Dragon Dynasty Character Bushi Duellist
63 Ascetic Visionary Dragon Dynasty Character Monk Tattooed
64 Niten Master Dragon Dynasty Character Bushi
65 Togashi Yokuni* Dragon Dynasty Character Bushi Shugenja Champion
66 Secluded Temple Dragon Dynasty Holding Shrine
67 Obstinate Recruit Lion Dynasty Character Bushi
68 Ikoma Prodigy Lion Dynasty Character Courtier
69 Matsu Berserker Lion Dynasty Character Bushi Berserker
70 Steadfast Samurai Lion Dynasty Character Bushi
71 Akodo Gunso Lion Dynasty Character Bushi Pride
72 Deathseeker Lion Dynasty Character Bushi
73 Venerable Historian Lion Dynasty Character Courtier Scholar
74 Kitsu Spiritcaller Lion Dynasty Character Shugenja Water
75 Lion's Pride Brawler Lion Dynasty Character Bushi Courtier
76 Matsu Beiona * Lion Dynasty Character Bushi
77 Honoured General Lion Dynasty Character Bushi Commander
78 Ikoma Eiji * Lion Dynasty Character Courtier
79 Akodo Toturi * Lion Dynasty Character Bushi Champion
80 Staging Ground Lion Dynasty Holding Battleground
81 Naive Student Phoenix Dynasty Character
82 Shiba Peacemaker Phoenix Dynasty Character Bushi
83 Solemn Scholar Phoenix Dynasty Character Shugenja Earth Scholar
84 Adept of the Waves Phoenix Dynasty Character Shugenja Water
85 Asako Diplomat Phoenix Dynasty Character Courtier
86 Meddling Mediator Phoenix Dynasty Character
87 Radiant Orator Phoenix Dynasty Character Courtier
88 Serene Warrior Phoenix Dynasty Character Bushi
89 Shiba Yojimbo Phoenix Dynasty Character Bushi Yojimbo
90 Isawa Masahiro * Phoenix Dynasty Character Shugenja Fire
91 Fearsome Mystic Phoenix Dynasty Character Shugenja Air
92 Isawa Atsuko * Phoenix Dynasty Character Shugenja Void
93 Shiba Tsukune * Phoenix Dynasty Character Bushi Champion
94 Forgotten Library Phoenix Dynasty Holding Library Shrine
95 Bayushi Liar Scorpion Dynasty Character
96 Bayushi Manipulator Scorpion Dynasty Character Courtier
97 Sinister Soshi Scorpion Dynasty Character
98 Blackmail Artist Scorpion Dynasty Character
99 Soshi Illusionist Scorpion Dynasty Character Shugenja Air
100 Yogo Outcast Scorpion Dynasty Character Shugenja Air
101 Young Rumourmonger Scorpion Dynasty Character Courtier
102 Favoured Neice Scorpion Dynasty Character Courtier
103 Shosuro Actress Scorpion Dynasty Character Courtier Shinobi
104 Shosuro Miyako * Scorpion Dynasty Character Bushi Shinobi
105 Bayushi Yunako * Scorpion Dynasty Character Bushi Commander
106 Yogo Hiroue * Scorpion Dynasty Character Courtier
107 Bayushi Shoju * Scorpion Dynasty Character Bushi Courtier Champion
108 City of Lies Scorpion Dynasty Holding City
109 Moto Youth Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi Cavalry
110 Utaku Infantry Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi
111 Aggressive Moto Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi Cavalry
112 Border Rider Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi Cavalry
113 Meishodo Wielder Unicorn Dynasty Character Shugenja Water
114 Shinjo Outrider Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi Cavalry Scout
115 Giver of Gifts Unicorn Dynasty Character Courtier
116 Ide Trader Unicorn Dynasty Character Courtier
117 Warrior Poet Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi Cavalry
118 Utaku Yamino * Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi BattleMaiden Cavalry
119 Moto Horde Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi Army Cavalry
120 Shinjo Tatsuo * Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi Cavalry Scout
121 Shinjo Altanserai * Unicorn Dynasty Character Bushi Cavalry Champion
122 Otomo Courtier Neutral Dynasty Character Courtier Imperial
123 Seppun Guardsman Neutral Dynasty Character Bushi Imperial
124 Keeper Initiate Neutral Dynasty Character
125 Miya Mystic Neutral Dynasty Character Shugenja Earth Imperial
126 Seeker Initiate Neutral Dynasty Character Monk
127 Wandering Ronin Neutral Dynasty Character Bushi Ronin
128 Favourable Ground Neutral Dynasty Holding
129 Imperial Storehouse Neutral Dynasty Holding Imperial
130 Hiruma Ambusher Crab Conflict Character Bushi Scout
131 Stoic Gunso Crab Conflict Character Bushi
132 Reprieve Crab Conflict Attachment Condition
133 Watch Commander Crab Conflict Attachment Follower
134 Jade Tetsubo Crab Conflict Attachment Jade Weapon Restricted
135 Levy Crab Conflict Event
136 Rebuild Crab Conflict Event
137 Way of the Crab Crab Conflict Event Philosophy
138 The Mountain does not Fall Crab Conflict Event Technique
139 Steward of Law Crane Conflict Character Courtier Scholar
140 Political Rival Crane Conflict Character Covert
141 Above Question Crane Conflict Attachment Condition
142 Duellist Training Crane Conflict Attachment Technique
143 Height of Fashion Crane Conflict Attachment Condition
144 The Perfect Gift Crane Conflict Event
145 Voice of Honour Crane Conflict Event
146 Way of the Crane Crane Conflict Event Philosophy
147 Admit Defeat Crane Conflict Event
148 Noble Sacrifice Crane Conflict Event
149 Tattooed Wanderer Dragon Conflict Character Monk Tattooed
150 Togashi Kazue* Dragon Conflict Character Monk Tattooed
151 Ancestral Daisho Dragon Conflict Attachment Weapon Ancestral Restricted
152 Daimyo's Favour Dragon Conflict Attachment
153 Kitsuki Method Dragon Conflict Attachment Technique Ancestral Restricted
154 Way of the Dragon Dragon Conflict Attachment Philosophy
155 Let Go Dragon Conflict Event
156 Mantra of Fire Dragon Conflict Event Kiho Fire
157 Tranquility Dragon Conflict Event
158 Indomitable Will Dragon Conflict Event
159 Mirumoto's Fury Dragon Conflict Event
160 Vengeful Oathkeeper Lion Conflict Character Bushi
161 Master of the Spear Lion Conflict Character Bushi
162 Guidance of the Ancestors Lion Conflict Attachment Condition
163 Honoured Blade Lion Conflict Attachment Weapon Restricted
164 Sashimono Lion Conflict Attachment Banner Item
165 Ready for Battle Lion Conflict Event
166 Stand your Ground Lion Conflict Event
167 Way of the Lion Lion Conflict Event Philosophy
168 For Greater Glory Lion Conflict Event
169 Strength in Numbers Lion Conflict Event
170 Ishiken Initiate Phoenix Conflict Character Shugenja Void
171 Seeker of Knowledge Phoenix Conflict Character Courtier Shugenja Air
172 Magnificent Kimono Phoenix Conflict Attachment
173 Grasp of Earth Phoenix Conflict Attachment Spell Earth
174 Pacifism Phoenix Conflict Attachment Condition
175 Supernatural Storm Phoenix Conflict Event Spell Water
176 Way of the Phoenix Phoenix Conflict Event Philosophy
177 Against the Waves Phoenix Conflict Event Spell Water
178 Know the World Phoenix Conflict Event Spell Void
179 Display of Power Phoenix Conflict Event Spell Fire
180 Adept of Shadows Scorpion Conflict Character Shinobi
181 Unassmuing Yojimbo Scorpion Conflict Character Bushi Yojimbo Covert
182 Court Mask Scorpion Conflict Attachment Item Mask
183 Fiery Madness Scorpion Conflict Attachment Poison
184 Forged Edict Scorpion Conflict Event
185 Way of the Scorpion Scorpion Conflict Event Philosophy
186 Calling in Favours Scorpion Conflict Event
187 I Can Swim Scorpion Conflict Event Philosophy
188 Ambush Scorpion Conflict Event
189 Blackmail Scorpion Conflict Event
190 Iuchi Wayfinder Unicorn Conflict Character Shugenja Water Cavalry
191 Ide Messenger Unicorn Conflict Character Courtier
192 Favoured Mount Unicorn Conflict Attachment Creature
193 Spyglass Unicorn Conflict Attachment Item Gaijin
194 Born to War Unicorn Conflict Attachment Condition
195 Breakthrough Unicorn Conflict Event
196 Captive Audience Unicorn Conflict Event
197 I Am Ready Unicorn Conflict Event
198 Way of the Unicorn Unicorn Conflict Event Philosophy
199 Cavalry Reserves Unicorn Conflict Event
200 Fine Katana Neutral Conflict Attachment Weapon Restricted
201 Ornate Fan Neutral Conflict Attachment Item Restricted
202 Cloud the Mind Neutral Conflict Attachment Spell Air
203 Assassination Neutral Conflict Event
204 Banzai! Neutral Conflict Event
205 Contingency Plan Neutral Conflict Event
206 Court Games Neutral Conflict Event
207 For Shame! Neutral Conflict Event
208 Good Omen Neutral Conflict Event
209 Spies at Court Neutral Conflict Event
210 Charge Neutral Conflict Event
211 Fallen in Battle Neutral Conflict Event
212 Outwit Neutral Conflict Event
213 Rout Neutral Conflict Event

And this is the Card distribution.

Dynasty Conflict
Stronghold Province Character Holding Character Attachment Event
Crab 1 8 25 - 37 38 - 39 130 - 131 132 - 134 135 - 138
Crane 2 9 40 - 52 53 139 - 140 141 - 143 144 - 148
Dragon 3 10 54 - 65 66 149 - 150 151 - 154 155 - 159
Lion 4 11 67 - 79 80 160 - 161 162 - 164 165 - 169
Phoenix 5 12 81 - 93 94 170 - 171 172 - 174 175 - 179
Scorpion 6 13 95 - 107 108 180 - 181 182 - 183 184 - 189
Unicorn 7 14 109 - 121 None 190 - 191 192 - 194 195 - 199
Neutral None 15 - 24 122 - 127 128 - 129 None 200 - 202 203 - 213

Finally, here is a completed list of card quantities

Numbers Quantity Total Type
1 - 7 1 each 7 7 Stronghold
8 - 24 1 each 17 17 Province
25 - 121 1 each 97
117 Dynasty
122 - 123 3 each 6
124 2 2
125 3 3
126 2 2
127 3 3
128 - 129 2 each 4
130 - 199 1 each 70
98 Conflict
200 - 213 2 each 28
Edited by Tonbo Karasu
Final Article

Thanks for doing this. I like being able to see the revealed info at a glance like this.

Your Doji W looks like a "Doji Whisperer" to me.

There's also an "Ancestral Lands" province on the showcase under the Savvy Politician. On the same picture, the character above the Savvy Politician seems like a "? Scout"

Yeah. Whisperer looks right, thankyou.

As well as the Scout I'd say there's probably 4 others in that layout, which I can't really read.

? Fashion may be a Crane clan card; since it's an attachment we can't see the symbol - but there is a little hint of blue border on the right side of the card.

Characters can apparently be in the conflict deck so we can't be certain all of them are Dynasty.

Some speculating here:

From what my bad eyes can see, Savvy Pollitician is in (or around) 45, and Agasha Swordsmith seems to be in the 56(ish) position. If that is correct, it seems to me that the characters are placed by clan than cost, instead of clan and name (as they did with AGOT).

If that's so, the 3-fate Borderlands Defender should be in the mid-Crab list, going somewhere between 24 and 37 (14 chars seems good)? Meaning that Crane start at 38, have what, 4 1-fate, 4 2-fate and then end at 51, Dragon start at 52, have 4 1-fate and Agasha Swordsmith sits right at the 56 position. They'd end at 65, the Lion would start at 66 (with the Berserker being the last 1-fate at 69) end at 79, the Phoenix at 80 til 93, the scorpion between 94 and 107, leaving the unicorn at 108, with the Border Rider as the first 2-fate and ending at 121.

Between 7 and 23 are 17 slots. Maybe provinces, 1 for each clan and 10 unaligned

Edited by ThadiusZho
Math.... bah

So, if we assume that it goes Strongholds -> Provinces -> Characters and within that alphabetical -> Neutral, the Phoenix Province would be number 12.

My eyes could imagine that actually lining up...

Also, 17 Provinces would be 1 per Clan plus 10. If the theory that each Province matches an element, that would be two for each of the 5 rings in Neutral provinces. I think you've done good there...

It is probably "For Greater Glory" or "For the Greater Glory". Its Lion after all.

The named Daidoji is Daidoji Nerishima.

2 hours ago, ThadiusZho said:

From what my bad eyes can see, Savvy Pollitician is in (or around) 45, and Agasha Swordsmith seems to be in the 56(ish) position. If that is correct, it seems to me that the characters are placed by clan than cost, instead of clan and name (as they did with AGOT).

They switched to faction/type/cost/uniqueness/name in AGoT (in the deluxe expansions).

22 minutes ago, Khudzlin said:

They switched to faction/type/cost/uniqueness/name in AGoT (in the deluxe expansions).

I'm remembering the core set then....

2 hours ago, ThadiusZho said:

I'm remembering the core set then....

Yes, it was faction/type/name in the Core Set.

I went and did some more analysis of what we have available and think I have put together the sequencing for this Core set.

First, I'm assuming that each Clan has an equal number of cards of each type (Stronghold, Province, Dynasty, Conflict). If that is wrong, then the following is less accurate, but still has some implications.

The un-named Phoenix holding has a number of 94, I think. This is higher than the Matsu Berserker character, but Lower than the Border Rider character. Doing a bit more playing with numbers, if there are 14 Dynasty cards per Clan, the Holding is at the end of the block of Phoenix cards. From that, we can pretty much say that the Holdings come after Characters. Further, we can infer that all of the kinds of Conflict cards are grouped together, within Clan.

So, the sequencing of cards in the box is most likely -

  • Type (Stronghold, Province, Dynasty, Conflict)
  • Clan (Crab, Crane, Dragon, Lion, Phoenix, Scorpion, Unicorn, Neutral)
  • Subtype (Character, Holding; Attachment, Event...)
  • Cost (Ascending)
  • Name (Alphabetical)

This actually has an interesting implication for the Conflict cards. Rebuild (a Crab card) is number 136. Blackmail (a Scorpion card) is number 149. That means that there are 13 cards split between Crane, Dragon, Lion and Phoenix; possibly with some Crab or Scorpion at the beginning or end. Really, this limits the number of Clan-specific Conflict cards to 3 per Clan. Which means that there will be many neutral Conflict cards. I think I'm okay with that.

Edited by Tonbo Karasu
Arithmetical failures

What is your source for the numbers on Rebuild and Blackmail. It seems to be a really small number of conflicts cards per clan (considering each Clan should at least get a "Way of... " and a character on the conflict side.

Maybe it is three events per class and the attachments come later and each class will have a few of them as well.

Blackmail is straight our shown on the Product page as a full-sized card

l5c01_blackmail.png

And Rebuild is shown in this fan:

l5c01_anc_cardfan_1.png

Blackmail looks like 189 to me.

On 20.4.2017 at 11:09 AM, Tonbo Karasu said:

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I would suggest using the following column header in this order.

  • Set - Stays the same
  • No - Stays the same
  • Name - Stays the same
  • Clan - Stays the same
  • Deck - with the following allowed values: None, Dynasty, Conflict
  • Type - with the following allowed values: Province, Stronghold, Personality, Holding, Attachment, Event.
  • Subtype - with the following allowed values: Water, Void, Bushi, Shugenja, Weapon, Shrine, Library, whatever.
1 hour ago, Ser Nakata said:

Blackmail looks like 189 to me.

Agree. Also, Breakthrough looks like 195 to me, and Vengeful Oathkeeper looks like it ends in a 0, which doesn't fit the prediction..

38 minutes ago, Rinder5 said:

Agree. Also, Breakthrough looks like 195 to me, and Vengeful Oathkeeper looks like it ends in a 0, which doesn't fit the prediction..

The problem with Breakthrough being 195 is that it would tip the number of different cards to over 200. With about 250 cards in the box (from AMA) that means there would be less than 50 cards for duplicates, all told. Even if you make all of the duplicates neutral, that's not enough duplicates of neutral cards to make 2 complete decks.

3 minutes ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

The problem with Breakthrough being 195 is that it would tip the number of different cards to over 200. With about 250 cards in the box (from AMA) that means there would be less than 50 cards for duplicates, all told. Even if you make all of the duplicates neutral, that's not enough duplicates of neutral cards to make 2 complete decks.

Even if we take into consideration the "influence" mechanic that will probably let you use some (3-10) out of faction cards? I am bad at math that's why I am asking... :)

There's no influence for Dynsasty. It needs 40 cards at least. We're going with the assumption that all of the duplicates are neutral, to grant flexibility. If there are 14 Dynasty cards per clan, you'd need a total of 52 neutral cards to fill out the dynasty deck. Then you get onto the Conflict side, where there would be ~10 cards per clan (to get Breakthrough to 195). Even if you bring in 10 cards with Influence (using 1-point cards) that still leaves you needing 40 neutral cards.

There are already ~10 neutral Provinces. Total - 102 neutral cards.

Each clan gets 1 Stronghold, 1 Province, 14 Dynasty ~10 Conflict. Total 26*7 = 182.

That's over 280 cards, which is enough more than 250 for me to doubt it.

On the other hand, if there's 3 Conflict cards per clan, you would probably want ~15 different neutral ones. Which would come to 170 or thereabouts. That leaves 80ish cards in the box to be duplicates. Of the 170 different cards, the Stronghold, Provinces and Unique personalities won't have any duplicates. If there's as few as 3 Unique Characters per Clan, that's 45 Unique cards. Having 80 duplicate cards split between 125 possible seems reasonable, and probably falls into the description of 1 core to play, 2 cores to be competitive, 3 cores to have the full set.

26 minutes ago, Tonbo Karasu said:

Even if you make all of the duplicates neutral, that's not enough duplicates of neutral cards to make 2 complete decks.

I'm of the camp that you won't be able to make a complete deck with one core set.

I posted the math in the thread 'two cores to be competitive', but basically AGoT2 only barely had enough cards to make 1 deck from the core set, and that game requires less cards per player.

Didn't they say in the AMA that there were cardtypes that hadn't been shown yet?

Imperial Favor, spells, perhaps sensei (although that would something for deluxes)

Potentail cards to spoil: events, kihos, spells, senseis, ancestors. Tokens?