1 minute ago, shineyorkboy said:

And I'm telling you you're wrong.

Oh good job! Making yourself look even more silly! I didn't think that was possible.

26 minutes ago, Sparks Duh said:

Oh good job! Making yourself look even more silly! I didn't think that was possible.

Your failure to properly estimate the finite constraints of a subjective quality is unsurprising given your inability to understand the nature of Ivory Edition and Twenty Festivals Edition.

15 minutes ago, shineyorkboy said:

Your failure to properly estimate the finite constraints of a subjective quality is unsurprising given your inability to understand the nature of Ivory Edition and Twenty Festivals Edition.

Yeah... keep telling yourself there was a 20 festivals edition.

3 minutes ago, Sparks Duh said:

Yeah... keep telling yourself there was a 20 festivals edition.

Boo. Your response failed to entertain me.

Although now I wonder why FFG has Mantis and Spider Clan symbols as forum avatars if they aren't in their version of L5R.

Just now, shineyorkboy said:

Boo. Your response failed to entertain me.

Although now I wonder why FFG has Mantis and Spider Clan symbols as forum avatars if they aren't in their version of L5R.

hahaha. Well I'm not trying to entertain you, I'm trying to educate you!

And also, I never really thought about the avatar thing. It really does make no sense that our clan mons are avatars and we don't get to play em. Seems like a little slap in the face! lol

2 hours ago, shineyorkboy said:

1) I don't recall Ivory being about force +/-'s as much as it was about bowing, straightening, and movement shenanigans to avoid contact with the enemy. And then 'The Coming Storm' made Crab dishonor viable and that saw me through the rest of the year.

Props to your skill, but I don't see how someone could stay competitive without using Emperor Edition cards. Guys like Nitoshi xp and Dark Naga xp were soooo good.

2) Ivory and 20f were definitely one year each. I was an effort to get op Emperor cards out of the environment as fast as possible. The last few sets of Emperor were dual bugged for Ivory, Ivory was dual bugged for 20f, and 20f was dual bugged for Onyx. They even came out with new Strongholds at the start of 20f.

I think there's problem with tourney legality.

CoM, AM and GoC expansions were only EE legal ones for Ivory Arc format and as these cards from these expansions were mainly designed to fulfill much different Emperor Edition (faster/deadlier). That's why most tourneys of Fall 2014 season and Koteis in Spring 2015 (until 20F drop) were played in Ivory Strict (Ivory base onwards) to avoid such confrontation (especially big unique Personalities were a problem).

And Ivory Strict was totally disaster in term of gameplay becasue lack of good enjoyable actions.

17 hours ago, Ryoshun Higoka said:

"There's a lot we don't know yet" - the rallying cry of this board.

"Will this be good?" "Will this mechanic work?" "Why are we all speculating like crazy about something we've seen, like, 2% of?"

And the whole board chimes in-

Well, what else are we supposed to do?

Something productive? Pffft.

17 hours ago, Wintersong said:

Akuma needs its food, indeed.

Akuma? Well, Toku often died bravely defending against Akuma attack. Toku, the best speed-bump ever.

As far as Oni eating him, I'd say Tsuburu and Skikibu were the ones usually snacking on the poor guy.

1 hour ago, Sparks Duh said:

Yeah... keep telling yourself there was a 20 festivals edition.

Not as such, no.

However, it is true that after 20 Festivals came out, most tourney formats no longer allowed Emperor-only bugged cards.

This was the official legality guide. Note that the Emperor bugged cards (the green one) were only legal in Ivory Extended (which, granted, was the format used in the vast majority of tournaments until Twenty Festivals came out).

9 hours ago, Sparks Duh said:

1) 20f was WAY better in terms of game play. A lot more actions that were relevant and were way more fun than 'I give that peep -2f' and 'I give that peep +2f' that was Ivory. It was so stupidly bland, I couldn't play it. So I didn't. I traveled to koteis to judge for TOs. I didn't wanna play in that boring ass environment. Especially when I go to one of the very first koteis in Ivory with a slightly modified starter deck and not only top cut with it, go undefeated all the way to top 4! That's just too fckn silly.

2) No arc lasted one year in the history of the game, iirc. Especially at the end. 20f was not an arc. Ivory was the arc. After Ivory arc was gonna be Onyx arc. 20f was only an expansion with (some) new strongholds in it. That's all. If you think of it in LCG terms, it was only a deluxe expansion. I think you are getting confused by the Extended, Standard, and Strict formats that got introduced in to the game.

I understand that 20F wasn't really its own arc, but I think a lot of us view it as an arc because of the way they bugged the cards. Yes, the only difference was the color of the bug, but it was a difference. While it may technically not have been an official change of arc, mechanically it was very similar to when arcs change, so I think players can be forgiven for referring to Ivory and 20F as separate arcs.

I guess this argument about old L5R cycles reminds us all how we won't have to suffer through a bunch of threads about explaining arc rotations and having the community give them code names like "laser." How in the heck did that ever gain traction anyways? Shouldn't we have been using words like "katana" when all that went down?

Moving forward, was there anything mentioned about the rate at which we'd be receiving more info about the game, between now and the GenCon release? I tried rechecking the various sources of info but did see/hear anything specific. Wondering if I might have missed it.

32 minutes ago, Ishi Tonu said:

about the rate at which we'd be receiving more info about the game, between now and the GenCon release?

Not often enough. But with enough meat to last us... a couple of days of eager discusions?

Does not FFG do a monthly thing? GenCon is sooooooo far away... (plus between 1 or 2 months to be released in my country)

1 hour ago, Wintersong said:

GenCon is sooooooo far away... (plus between 1 or 2 months to be released in my country)

Don't worry, I think it's a standard thing to wait 1 or 2 months for a game to get officially released after the initial Gencon event. Your country is no exception.

Yeah. And the wait between GenCon and retail will not be as bad because of spoilers.

In any case, it is going to be legen...

Wait for it...

7 hours ago, Ishi Tonu said:

Moving forward, was there anything mentioned about the rate at which we'd be receiving more info about the game, between now and the GenCon release? I tried rechecking the various sources of info but did see/hear anything specific. Wondering if I might have missed it.

Once FFG started doing previews for Imperial Assault, they were weekly for the two months prior to the games release; Arkham Horror LCG was biweekly for two months. At this point we are four months out from Gen Con, so it may build up as we get closer to the release.

5 hours ago, Wintersong said:

Yeah. And the wait between GenCon and retail will not be as bad because of spoilers.

In any case, it is going to be legen...

Wait for it...

dairy....

To bad I'm laughtose intolerant.

I can easily see it being weekly. Hell, you can get a almost 2 months worth just talking about individual clans.

41 minutes ago, Sithborg said:

I can easily see it being weekly. Hell, you can get a almost 2 months worth just talking about individual clans.

Yeah. There are 15 weeks until Gencon. Take 1 preview for each of the 7 clans, 2 to 4 previews about different parts for the game, 1 for the rulebook, some weeks with stories since several are supposed to come this summer and we easily have our 15 weekly news.

I'm really looking forward to this game. If there was every a Card Game that was made for the LCG format....L5R is it. I've really come to love the LCG format. Very economical compared to traditional booster pack models, seems to be working for FFG as well. Hopefully we'll get a good group going here in my area.

Also, never understood the people who cry about having to buy three core sets. I play magic as well and if I bought boosters until I get 3 of every card for a set I'd probably have to spend $500+. In FFG's LCG it's about $120 for a core set, $15 for expansions, $29 for each Deluxe.

You can buy 3 of every card in AGOT2 for $300 or so and for under $350 have a play mat or two and sleeves. There is no better value in card games right now.

1 hour ago, SlackerHacker said:

I'm really looking forward to this game. If there was every a Card Game that was made for the LCG format....L5R is it. I've really come to love the LCG format. Very economical compared to traditional booster pack models, seems to be working for FFG as well. Hopefully we'll get a good group going here in my area.

Also, never understood the people who cry about having to buy three core sets. I play magic as well and if I bought boosters until I get 3 of every card for a set I'd probably have to spend $500+. In FFG's LCG it's about $120 for a core set, $15 for expansions, $29 for each Deluxe.

You can buy 3 of every card in AGOT2 for $300 or so and for under $350 have a play mat or two and sleeves. There is no better value in card games right now.

L5R CCG was cheaper for me by far than any LCG ever made. Math all you want, but I still paid less in the CCG than I will for the LCG.

I am glad you are excited for the game. I am as well. And this is the one LCG I won't mind spending a crap ton of money on!

All I will say, is that the LCG format allows me to indulge in my completionist urges.

One thing that I picked up on in the Team Covenant interview that wasn't obvious to me in the announcement articles (unless I missed it) is that each ring can only be used once per round. For example, if someone does a Fire conflict, then neither player can use Fire again that round. I believe this means irrespective of whether it's Military or Political (i.e. you can't do a Fire Military and then a Fire Political in the same round either).

Source: Starts around 28:00 in the Team Covenant Designer Interview

Now when all this is revealed, i just want to play the game and another gruesome wait begins :<

9 hours ago, Sparks Duh said:

L5R CCG was cheaper for me by far than any LCG ever made. Math all you want, but I still paid less in the CCG than I will for the LCG.

I am glad you are excited for the game. I am as well. And this is the one LCG I won't mind spending a crap ton of money on!

You must have had a unique situation then because L5R CCG was not cheaper than any of FFGs LCGs when I played it. Not even close.

1 hour ago, SlackerHacker said:

You must have had a unique situation then because L5R CCG was not cheaper than any of FFGs LCGs when I played it. Not even close.

Yeah, I can only see a CCG being cheaper if you want to play without rares for example.