1 minute ago, Kiseki said:

Well, they have showed a lot of the vanilla characters in dynasty slots already.

Hm. Another thing in a long list that I missed.

Just now, Ryoshun Higoka said:

Hm. Another thing in a long list that I missed.

I'm finding myself making a lot of faulty assumptions on How Things Will Work based on How They Have Always Been. It's easy to do.

What I'm thinking is that conflict characters might correspond to a certain "type" of character within a clan - eg, a ninja, a saboteur, a spy, [insert each Clan's appropriate equivalent].

Common Logical Fallacy - Appeal to tradition (that's the way we always did it, so it must be right). It's tripped me up in new games so many times...

1 hour ago, Ryoshun Higoka said:

The only 0-cost I really want to see is Toku! Come on, you can't have a Clan War-era game without our boy!

And Toku's ability should be something along the lines of:

Forced Reaction: When Toku bows, add 1 fate to Toku

Just now, agarrett said:

And Toku's ability should be something along the lines of:

Forced Reaction: When Toku bows, add 1 fate to Toku

Or just, "Toku is not removed from play for having 0 Fate"

Toku has always had no fate. Toku made his own fate!

Hey, know what else we haven't seen yet? Elemental dragons.

Void Dragon: After you remove a Fate counter from an opponent's Character and one Fate counter to Void Dragon.

I actually don't expect those to be in Core.

9 minutes ago, Ryoshun Higoka said:

Hey, know what else we haven't seen yet? Elemental dragons.

Actually, we've seen very little "fantasy" so far. The art for the shugenja is about it. No spells, no kiho, no maho, no ki-rin, no dragons, no kami, no oni...

25 minutes ago, Kiseki said:

What I'm thinking is that conflict characters might correspond to a certain "type" of character within a clan - eg, a ninja, a saboteur, a spy, [insert each Clan's appropriate equivalent].

Vengeful Oathkeeper: Lion Clan - ?/?/?/0 - Bushi- Something something lose a Military Conflict put this something something from your hand.

Being 0 Glory, it's very follower like. Being a character, I guess he could be disnohored? For other effects, I mean.

7 minutes ago, rzlittle said:

Actually, we've seen very little "fantasy" so far. The art for the shugenja is about it. No spells, no kiho, no maho, no ki-rin, no dragons, no kami, no oni...

Well, it's good stuff to hold back. I'd be extremely surprised if those things weren't in the game, though!

Just now, Ryoshun Higoka said:

Well, it's good stuff to hold back. I'd be extremely surprised if those things weren't in the game, though!

The explicitly mention spells, and we have only seen a handful of attachments and follower-esque things. The other stuff I think we can consider for future stuff. Kiho might just be some flavor of a normal conflict card (Same as CCG). Only spells and Kiho are really part of the base tradition of L5R if you think about it, so these other stuff might not show up until later. At least from a carding standpoint. (And there is already a Dragon carded, probably maybe).

3 minutes ago, Mirith said:

The explicitly mention spells, and we have only seen a handful of attachments and follower-esque things. The other stuff I think we can consider for future stuff. Kiho might just be some flavor of a normal conflict card (Same as CCG). Only spells and Kiho are really part of the base tradition of L5R if you think about it, so these other stuff might not show up until later. At least from a carding standpoint. (And there is already a Dragon carded, probably maybe).

So far, I have only seen about 41 cards of the... 250 or so cards of the core? One of them seems the Lion Champion,in the showcase, but my eyes cannot read it.

Were not kihos introduced way alter than spells tough? Monk stuff initially? I am sure they will be in this core, just trying to remember old AEG stuff.

Just now, Wintersong said:

So far, I have only seen about 41 cards of the... 250 or so cards of the core? One of them seems the Lion Champion,in the showcase, but my eyes cannot read it.

Were not kihos introduced way alter than spells tough? Monk stuff initially? I am sure they will be in this core, just trying to remember old AEG stuff.

Kihos showed up in Crimson & Jade, when they made Brotherhood of Shinsei a faction. And yes, there are a lot of cards yet to be revealed.

2 minutes ago, Wintersong said:

So far, I have only seen about 41 cards of the... 250 or so cards of the core?

Yeah, I just thought it was weird that out of their initial previews there wasn't a single "magical" card. You'd think at least one of the cards would have been a sample spell.

5 minutes ago, Wintersong said:

So far, I have only seen about 41 cards of the... 250 or so cards of the core? One of them seems the Lion Champion,in the showcase, but my eyes cannot read it.

Were not kihos introduced way alter than spells tough? Monk stuff initially? I am sure they will be in this core, just trying to remember old AEG stuff.

The Lion Champion, which image are you referencing?

1 minute ago, rzlittle said:

Yeah, I just thought it was weird that out of their initial previews there wasn't a single "magical" card. You'd think at least one of the cards would have been a sample spell.

That is an interesting observation. I personally preferred when L5R was slightly more mid-fantasy than high fantasy, but I know there will be a lot who didn't feel the same way. I wonder if that's a trend or a coincidence.

Just now, the eigensheep said:

The Lion Champion, which image are you referencing?

Not sure if Lion Champion or Toturi. I am just basing it on the background Lion image. He is the Lion personality bowed attacking the Crane province in the showcase .

Just now, Wintersong said:

Not sure if Lion Champion or Toturi. I am just basing it on the background Lion image. He is the Lion personality bowed attacking the Crane province in the showcase .

Hmm, I don't think it's anyone significant. It doesn't have the unique symbol in the title. I could be wrong though.

Just now, Kiseki said:

That is an interesting observation. I personally preferred when L5R was slightly more mid-fantasy than high fantasy, but I know there will be a lot who didn't feel the same way. I wonder if that's a trend or a coincidence.

I suspect it is a coincidence, since the Doomed Shugenja, Miya Mystic, and the Phoenix Clan art feature pretty dramatic magical effects that I think skew things towards high fantasy.

6 minutes ago, Wintersong said:

Not sure if Lion Champion or Toturi. I am just basing it on the background Lion image. He is the Lion personality bowed attacking the Crane province in the showcase .

I've taken a good look at the image. The Lion cards appear to be

"Akodo General" which has the art from the release article. He appears to be a 3/1 for 4 with 2 Glory a couple lines of trait game text and an Action. Would have to be pretty good text at that statline. Definitely does not have the unique symbol

"Lion's Something Something" a 3/2 for 3 with Glory 1 and an Action

Some type of 1 cost courtier with apparently an action

The Crane are

"Brash Samurai" a 2/1 for 2 with 2 Glory and something like Action: When this character is your only character participating in a conflict, honor this character

A 2 cost 2/0 with 1 glory and some game text covered by tokens.

A 3 cost -/3 with 0 glory and a fair amount of game text

1 minute ago, williamobrien said:

I've taken a good look at the image. The Lion cards appear to be

"Akodo General" which has the art from the release article. He appears to be a 3/1 for 4 with 2 Glory a couple lines of trait game text and an Action. Would have to be pretty good text at that statline. Definitely does not have the unique symbol

"Lion's Something Something" a 3/2 for 3 with Glory 1 and an Action

Some type of 1 cost courtier with apparently an action

The Crane are

"Brash Samurai" a 2/1 for 2 with 2 Glory and something like Action: When this character is your only character participating in a conflict, honor this character

A 2 cost 2/0 with 1 glory and some game text covered by tokens.

A 3 cost -/3 with 0 glory and a fair amount of game text

Do we know if honoring/dishonoring are semi-permanent states? That could make Brash Samurai a pretty strong vanilla card I think.

Fun thing about eastern fantasy (which certain incarnations of L5R, especially RPG, lacked, mostly due to desire to be as realistic as possible when it came to bushi and courtiers, keeping all the "magical" stuff for Monks and Shugenja) is that it rarely makes a clear distinction between "normies" and "wizards". Usually, line between supernatural feats and "just" feats of superb skill is really blurred, which gets you both monks who attain harmony that allows them to bend elements, and swordmen who become one with the world while wielding their blades and go beyond "the limit". In general, superpowers in eastern fantasy are usually about finding a right balance and harmony between mental, spiritual and physical. In RPG, this was very well portrayed by the Insight mechanic. Enlightened harmonious balance of protagonists is often contrasted by unbalanced antagonists who seek power in extremes, often aided by external sources like evil spirits or demons.

I hope this will be present in this world, too.

4 minutes ago, Kiseki said:

Do we know if honoring/dishonoring are semi-permanent states? That could make Brash Samurai a pretty strong vanilla card I think.

From the AMA and Preview info it looks like Honored and Dishonored states last until that character leaves play or is targeted by another Honored/Dishonored effect.