Would Luke turning to the darkside save Star Wars?

By Shadow345, in X-Wing

14 minutes ago, RogueLeader42 said:

Yep. Nobody accused the Jedi of not beeing perfect. But of calling themself to be flawless while beeing a stagnant shadow of themself.

Thats also the whole point of Anakins fall to the dark side. The descrepancy between "We are the guardians of peace and we help everyone." and them not saving his mother and Padmé when she fell out of the Laat/i.

There were also some interesting points in the Clone Wars cartoon where the Jedi's handling of a situation strained Anakin's trust of the Order, like when they faked Obi Wan's death or Ahsoka's trial.

12 hours ago, RogueLeader42 said:

...there are around 10000 Jedi in total. Including Younglings and Padawans and they operate only in teams of at least two. So around effective 4000 Jedi teams to cover a galaxy of 1.5mio major inhabited systems and countless millions of settlements. You are living a ****** up life under some local dictator? The chances a Jedi would come and visit your planet are slim at best.

This is a very good point, which does feature in the prequels. In fact, one of the few things I did like about the prequels was the idea that the Outer Rim was effectively beyond the reach of the Jedi and the Senate, and dominated by various 'scum and villainy' organised crime syndicates who condoned/promoted/profited from disgusting abominations like slavery.

I do desperately wish that Lucas had made the pretext for the Clone Wars the sudden, widespread, increasing adoption of advanced cloning methods in Outer Rim systems. This would have been done as a method of producing vast numbers of powerfully built but docile humanoid slaves that were more economical than droids as labour forces (they'd be cheap and expendable - feed 'em babyfood paste, like Robocop!). The need to suppress this swelling horror (secretly promoted by Sidious, if you wish, just as the prequels had him pulling the strings behind the 'Separatist Confederation') would have been the occasion for the Jedi to dramatically overreach themselves by engaging in a vast galactic civil war against the Separatists' armies of frightening, brutal clone warriors - a vast, terrifying, ruinously costly struggle that would have posed them with a huge moral dilemma: given that Jedi numbers were totally inadequate to defeat these terrible clones, should the Republic use the same advanced cloning methods used by the Separatists, to provide the Republic with armies of its own clone warriors? In other words, do we 'fight fire with fire'? The overriding of Jedi scruples by Chancellor Palpatine, in building a Republican clone army (a la prequels' 'Grand Army of the Republic') would not only have made the name 'Clone Wars' make much more sense (a vast conflict of clones v. clones!!); it would also have been the ocasion for the pivotal breach between Anakin and Obi Wan and the rest of the Jedi Council, with Anakin increasingly adopting Palpatine and General Tarkin's ruthless doctrine of 'the end justifies the means'. It would have provided Anakin with the opportunity to display the kind of increasing ruthlessness (sacrificing huge numbers of his own men? Killing prisoners? Accepting huge collatoral damage including civilian deaths?) that would pave his way to the Dark Side, in his misguided determination to 'end this destructive conflict and restore order to the galaxy' (prefiguring his obsession to this end as Vader). Ultimately, it would have played out much as the prequels did: Palpatine would have provoked the Jedi into a mistimed effort to remove him, and his army of clones would have morphed into the Empire's legions of stormtroopers. I'd have added the element that Palpatine - in announcing the 'Empire' - would have been imposing the domination of the human core systems like Coruscant on the predominantly alien outer reaches of the galaxy, which included the Outer Rim - otherwise the term 'Empire' and the humanocentricity of the imperial forces makes little sense.

I seem to have gone off topic a little, for which - apologies! Anyhoo, that's my Clone Wars, and I'm sticking to it...

Edited by hismhs