4 gold squadron pilots with vectored thrusters and ion cannons can tear it apart...

7 hours ago, Admiral Deathrain said:

Pattiswarm (Howlrunner + three Black Squadrons with Crackshot, three Academies) doesn't look hopeless. 4 Crackshots can drop Biggs pretty quickly and the high blocking potential keeps bombs and SLAM in check. You aren't likely to lose more than one TIE in the first round of shooting here unlike agaonst many other popular lists.

Swarms are hilariously bad against Miranda though. Miranda doesn't need bombs to deal with them.

24 minutes ago, defkhan1 said:

Swarms are hilariously bad against Miranda though. Miranda doesn't need bombs to deal with them.

Not really, she can't remove a TIE per turn, she can only dodge if she doesn't attack at all and also doesn't regen in that case and SLAM can be blocked. Not saying that it is an easy matchup, but it is far from 'hilariously bad'.

7 hours ago, Tlfj200 said:

True... but you have to attack Biggs first...

Hence the ion torps (I assume). Shoot Biggs and ionize everyone.

3 hours ago, Ailowynn said:

Hence the ion torps (I assume). Shoot Biggs and ionize everyone.

Wow, that's true that Ion Torpedoes penalize his effect.

On 4/28/2017 at 6:24 PM, defkhan1 said:

Are there any decent Imperial meta lists that can take on Paul's list? Stress + bombs is really scary for most Imp ships.

I got beat twice against Justin Brown (Hoth Top 8) and his Quickdraw, Vessery, Omega Leader at CAC. It was less his lists and more his flying that helped him.

On ‎4‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 5:19 PM, Strikesback said:

Palp ace would have done well against it, but palp was nerfed so they are hard to play against tlt.

Palp still isn't bad against a single TLT Palp the first shot and save your token for the second

Kinda skipped through the thread, but is anyone else kinda looking forward to Synced Turret giving Biggs the finger?

20 minutes ago, kris40k said:

Kinda skipped through the thread, but is anyone else kinda looking forward to Synced Turret giving Biggs the finger?

I don't think Biggs is quite dominating enough to make Synched Turret a meta staple, but if so find the idea hilarious.

I think triple jumps can do it. Torp the Y-wing, if it survives use Boba crew to remove the stressbot (or the TLT if you can fly good greens). You've got enough health to deal with Miranda, as long as you have your actions to deal stable damage output to Biggs, or Miranda.

18 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

I don't think Biggs is quite dominating enough to make Synched Turret a meta staple, but if so find the idea hilarious.

Dominant? Hmm not sure of that, he's still very present in stuff like Pheaver's list which won a major tourney and spawned this conversation or Kannan + Biggs which is running around the scene.

1 hour ago, Sarcon said:

I think triple jumps can do it. Torp the Y-wing, if it survives use Boba crew to remove the stressbot (or the TLT if you can fly good greens). You've got enough health to deal with Miranda, as long as you have your actions to deal stable damage output to Biggs, or Miranda.

I played the Biggs/Miranda/Stresshog list in a team tournament in Atlanta, GA yesterday and only lost one game which was against triple jumpmasters. I even managed to kill the Boba torpboat before it fired any torpedoes, but what was left over still had too much firepower.

3 hours ago, Biophysical said:

I don't think Biggs is quite dominating enough to make Synched Turret a meta staple, but if so find the idea hilarious.

Just fly 4 of them at Miranda and TL her lol.

Biggs Dies Last

Sienar Specialist (17) (x4)
Synced Turret (4)
Unguided Rockets (2)
Lightweight Frame (2)

Total: 100

Nasty thing about those turrets is that if you can keep your target in arc , you don't need to spend the TL for re-rolls, so you can then later get a Focus for an almost fully modded 3 die shot every turn. Unguided Rockets are for the initial engagement since you likely will not have TL's at that PS, you can just Focus and return fire with rockets after they move in. /shrug

I ran Heavers list at the Stele Open, and it was awesome. I think I was the only one running it. It's a very strong list, especially when played correctly and a little luck on some dice rolls. I ended up in Top 8 and got taken down by Jeremy Howard (It was awesome playing against him though, I really like his aggressiveness).

The list is very dependent on dropping those bombs at the right time. The only two matches I lost were against Scum lists, and both with Manaroo and Fenn Rau in them. The first was in swiss, I made a bad calculation and my entire **** squad ended up on a rock for three turns and got wasted. Totally my fault. Lost only 1 match in Swiss.

In top cut, I was admittedly tired from the weekend, and had a long drive ahead of me that day, so if I lost it was a win win for me. I ended up against Jeremy in the top 8 cut. My flying wasn't the absolute greatest at this point, but not abysmally bad like my other match. I had already taken out Old man Terry with two good thermal det drops, and had Manaroo and Fen Rau to deal with. Biggs ate it pretty early, like he usually does. I had a full Ywing still, but out of position, and Miranda had taken a full 5 dice hit from Fen the round prior. I moved, dropped my cluster mines, and hoped for the best. Jeremy had the option to peel off and come around, or take the mines like a man and see if he lives. He knew what I was going to do, and I knew he knew. It was the best play I could have made. He went right into them, stopping right behind me, detonating two of them.

He didn't roll a single damage. He then proceeded to 5 hit Miranda again. Well, so much for Miranda. lol. It was over shortly after that.

The game could have gone either way right at that point. If the mines had done what they usually do (I think I had cluster mined two other Fen Rau's that day, it was beautiful), The game was mine at that point. If they didn't, The game was his. Either way, it was a win win for me. I enjoyed making it as high as I did, and was a pleasure playing across from him.

I didn't find many lists that could beat this one, but ordinance heavy lists go right through Biggs into Miranda, and if that happens, the list will die quickly. It's strong, but not unbeatable. The list that won (yay, go rebels), now that's a hell of a strong list. Little bit different play style than Heavers, but still strong. Was happy to see it win.

@droz69 which list won the open?

I honestly don't feel comfortable giving the list out being so close to worlds.

However, should you wish to know what it is, it's out there for all to see. Stele open was streamed. Sorry, if it was past worlds I would.

I have found Miranda is very vulnerable to stress. Especially if you can double stress her.

1 hour ago, Hrathen said:

I have found Miranda is very vulnerable to stress. Especially if you can double stress her.

Bomb Miranda, yes. If you are using her primarily for regen as a late-game piece, she is not so bothered.

4 hours ago, droz69 said:

I honestly don't feel comfortable giving the list out being so close to worlds.

However, should you wish to know what it is, it's out there for all to see. Stele open was streamed. Sorry, if it was past worlds I would.

A lot of the games, including the final, are on Youtube.

Anyone really wanting to know should go take a look there.

6 hours ago, droz69 said:

I honestly don't feel comfortable giving the list out being so close to worlds.

However, should you wish to know what it is, it's out there for all to see. Stele open was streamed. Sorry, if it was past worlds I would.

Do you want to win a medal for pointless posts? Because that is how you do that.

For those that care: double ARCs with Jess Pava (BB-8 Norra, R2-D2 Jan Ors Shara, R3-A2 Jess) is the only list from that pool that would suprise you, and it can go toe to toe with the Miranda/Biggs/Stresshog list, but isn't particularly overwhelming. Other noteworthy lists include Biggs/Stresshog + new Chewie and Pathfinder/Braylen/Biggs, but again...eh. Maybe Kettsu/Bossk, too, but again, there isn't much here that will blow you away as the sooper secret tech choice that you can't talk about.

On 4/29/2017 at 9:26 AM, Tlfj200 said:

True... but you have to attack Biggs first...

Ion torps, because you target lock and fire and everyone gets hit within 1 with a ion. Even so with Ion turret cannon, it's range 2, if he keeps biggs back, stay at range 2 of the list and shoot M.

2 hours ago, Admiral Deathrain said:

Do you want to win a medal for pointless posts? Because that is how you do that.

For those that care: double ARCs with Jess Pava (BB-8 Norra, R2-D2 Jan Ors Shara, R3-A2 Jess) is the only list from that pool that would suprise you, and it can go toe to toe with the Miranda/Biggs/Stresshog list, but isn't particularly overwhelming. Other noteworthy lists include Biggs/Stresshog + new Chewie and Pathfinder/Braylen/Biggs, but again...eh. Maybe Kettsu/Bossk, too, but again, there isn't much here that will blow you away as the sooper secret tech choice that you can't talk about.

Want to win medal for being a ****? Because this is how you do that.

1 hour ago, droz69 said:

Want to win medal for being a ****? Because this is how you do that.