So there has been discussion on the A-Wings seen in the trailer in multiple threads, I figure we might as well just have one thread to talk about whether it looks like a new model of the ship or not.

I get the feeling from looking at the few on set pictures we have, the ones used in Rebels and a few of the pilot cards (Arvel and the Prototype Pilot), that it isn't a new model of the ship.

So what have you guys been able to figure out about the glorious return of the A-Wing?

Edit, got pictures up.

It's possible there's only one in the movie, though that's not super likely. Might even be poe's new ride since his x-wing gets blown up once again.

Observed:

There's an inverse paint scheme to the original (red sides, white down the middle).

Speculation:

Besides, new generation pilots, how could it be differentiated from OT...

... Tech slot?

21 minutes ago, markcsoul said:

It's possible there's only one in the movie, though that's not super likely. Might even be poe's new ride since his x-wing gets blown up once again.

If you look real close in the trailer there is at least two, two in the hangar when his X-Wing goes boom, and two fly past the light cruiser things in space.

19 minutes ago, markcsoul said:

It's possible there's only one in the movie, though that's not super likely. Might even be poe's new ride since his x-wing gets blown up once again.

Nah, there are a number.

In the hangar of the MC80, you can see the engines of one on the left, and the nose of one on the right of the frame...

...and it's all but certain that neither of these are the one that Luke is tooling around with from his exile (and which we saw set pics of him in last year)...

It's also a lot..."pointier"? ...than the old A-Wing. The nose sticks out a bit, in any case.

8 minutes ago, xanderf said:

Nah, there are a number.

In the hangar of the MC80, you can see the engines of one on the left, and the nose of one on the right of the frame...

...and it's all but certain that neither of these are the one that Luke is tooling around with from his exile (and which we saw set pics of him in last year)...

It's also a lot..."pointier"? ...than the old A-Wing. The nose sticks out a bit, in any case.

Photo bucket is acting up on me, so I couldn't upload the photo to share here. But if you take a look at Arvel Crynyd's card, the nose looks very long in that picture too, the same thing with the Prototype Pilot card.

So me, they look like a mix of a regular A-Wing and the aethersprite. Considering A-Wings were suppose to be stripped down to become interceptors, it makes sense that along the way, someone made them interceptors from scratch.

We can tell that there is a good chance that NONE OF THESE SCENES COULD BE IN THE MOVIE!

Now wait until Aug/Sep when the 2 movie tie-in ships will be released and then we will know that those ships will make it.

3 minutes ago, Marinealver said:

We can tell that there is a good chance that NONE OF THESE SCENES COULD BE IN THE MOVIE!

Now wait until Aug/Sep when the 2 movie tie-in ships will be released and then we will know that those ships will make it.

I'm not entirely sure the chance is that high, but yes there is that chance.

1 minute ago, Marinealver said:

We can tell that there is a good chance that NONE OF THESE SCENES COULD BE IN THE MOVIE!

Now wait until Aug/Sep when the 2 movie tie-in ships will be released and then we will know that those ships will make it.

Well Mr. Partypooper, that is no fun at all. I would like to think that the A-Wing will make it into the movie. Sure, there is a chance that it won't make it, but with it being in two shots it gets me excited.

It looks much smaller than the new canon version, much closer to what people assumed based on RotJ.

The Ep. 8 A-Wings look more like the ancient, original concept art of the ship - no surprise, since the X-Wing T-70 is also based on the sleeker, earlier X-Wing concept art. And, they have a more extended, pointer nose, like this .

PS: BTW, there is a character in the New canon that pilots an A-Wing in the TFA era, so we were kind of expecting the ship to feature in Ep. 8.

7 hours ago, SabineKey said:

I'm not entirely sure the chance is that high, but yes there is that chance.

Not much of the original teaser trailer of Rogue One made it to the movie....

Pretty sure we'll get the A-wing though

its very hard to tell with the in motion shot if the shape of this A-Wing differs substantially from the ROTJ A-Wing. We may be just getting some kind of optical illusion because of the reversed paint scheme and motion shot that makes it look longer. The bits we can see of the two A- Wings in the hanger shot look just like the nose of a ROTJ A-Wing and the tail but thats not saying much because those two design features would also be prevalent on a newer version of the ship as well. Whether these are "new" A-Wings, Updated tech A-Wings or even old A-Wings still being used from the ROTJ era Im excited to see them again on screen and about the possibilities that translate into into X-Wing Miniatures.

2 minutes ago, Estarriol said:

Not much of the original teaser trailer of Rogue One made it to the movie....

Pretty sure we'll get the A-wing though

Thats because they botched the third act and Disney made them reshoot it so it was more cohesive. I still want to see the original cut of Rouge One however as i'm sure all Star Wars fans do to satisfy our curiosity as to why Disney MADE them reshoot the end and other small parts of the movie.

But alas this is a A-Wing speculation thread for Episode 8 and I will not derail it...

Maybe it's a relative of the clone wars Era Jedi starfighter? Minus the droid drop in port, looks longer then the A-wing we are used too.

What if look found an old ship and hot rod'd her?

8 hours ago, Phoenix5454 said:

its very hard to tell with the in motion shot if the shape of this A-Wing differs substantially from the ROTJ A-Wing. We may be just getting some kind of optical illusion because of the reversed paint scheme and motion shot that makes it look longer. The bits we can see of the two A- Wings in the hanger shot look just like the nose of a ROTJ A-Wing and the tail but thats not saying much because those two design features would also be prevalent on a newer version of the ship as well. Whether these are "new" A-Wings, Updated tech A-Wings or even old A-Wings still being used from the ROTJ era Im excited to see them again on screen and about the possibilities that translate into into X-Wing Miniatures.

The new A-wing does look longer in the trailer but I agree that it is not completely conclusive. The ROTJ A-wing has a fairly wedge-shaped profile wheres the the TLJ version seems to have a concavity when when viewed from above. Also there look to be 2 small pods either side of the centre-line halfway between the cockpit and the nose. I can't see anything similar on the ROTJ version so I would say there have definitely been some updates. The pods are also visible on the shots of Prince Harry, as is the longer nose.

Maybe those pods are for out Tech upgrades. Do you think we get 2 slots since there are 2 pods?

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Well we know in the game, if the new A wings are rebel, they will have pilot skills to give out a free action or do some kind of regen.

If they end up being a scum ship, they will have a way to throw 4-6 red dice a turn, stress people and get auto evades.

So the trend with force awakens x wings and ties is more shielding, better dials, more actions, and tech slots.

This A wing will for sure become a premier ace ship.

Improving the a wings dial at this point in any meaningful way would basically mean sloops and talon rolls. Its a stretch I could see these ships getting white talon rolls since we see A-wings make those wide burnout turns in rebels a lot.

Tech slot simply means primed thrusters for A-wings

What action can they add? Why the barrel roll of coarse! Did someone say superior interceptor?

More health? They'll probably tack on another shield token.

Lastly, with the shot of Hamil in an a wing and black one getting caught in an explosion, poe and luke could be piloting a wings, luke's ability with an evade token makes him look like an X7 defender.

2 minutes ago, rafcpl6868 said:

So the trend with force awakens x wings and ties is more shielding, better dials, more actions, and tech slots.

This A wing will for sure become a premier ace ship.

Improving the a wings dial at this point in any meaningful way would basically mean sloops and talon rolls. Its a stretch I could see these ships getting white talon rolls since we see A-wings make those wide burnout turns in rebels a lot.

Tech slot simply means primed thrusters for A-wings

What action can they add? Why the barrel roll of coarse! Did someone say superior interceptor?

More health? They'll probably tack on another shield token.

Lastly, with the shot of Hamil in an a wing and black one getting caught in an explosion, poe and luke could be piloting a wings, luke's ability with an evade token makes him look like an X7 defender.

I see the addition of red turn around likely, and with all those greens these ships can easily recover.

dont see barrel roll, sorry.

extra shield, tech, sure, but Luke would be Resostence Luke with a new ability.

I would honestly be super happy if they didn't release a whole new ship, and instead gave us a Resistance Aces pack with nothing but named Resistance pilots and a missile upgrade that gives it +1 Red Dice. Also include a title that allows it to treat it's 3 K-Turn as an S-Loops and replaces it's modification slot with a Tech slot.

I wouldn't want them to invalidate the original A-Wing like a lot of the newer releases have, I just want some goodies to fix it and give it even more options, and new paint job.

2 minutes ago, NH Gunsmith said:

I would honestly be super happy if they didn't release a whole new ship, and instead gave us a Resistance Aces pack with nothing but named Resistance pilots and a missile upgrade that gives it +1 Red Dice. Also include a title that allows it to treat it's 3 K-Turn as an S-Loops and replaces it's modification slot with a Tech slot.

I wouldn't want them to invalidate the original A-Wing like a lot of the newer releases have, I just want some goodies to fix it and give it even more options, and new paint job.

Don't worry, the Resistence A-wing will be at least 20pts for ps 1. 2 attack at that price isn't very effecient.

22 minutes ago, GrimmyV said:

Don't worry, the Resistence A-wing will be at least 20pts for ps 1. 2 attack at that price isn't very effecient.

Haha, I hope not. There really isn't anything wrong with the A-Wing besides it's anemic attack value.

And what would they call the ship? RZ-2 Interceptor to avoid abuse of Chaardan Refit and A-Wing Test Pilot? Adding a Tech slot without removing something wouldn't make sense, the ship in the trailer really doesn't look any bigger than the original ship (if it is in fact a new model), and the design team had issues fitting everything into the original A-Wing design. Unless every bit of equipment shrank quite a bit, I really can't imagine them cramming any more equipment into the ship.

All I want is a Resistance A-Wing pack or it being part of an aces pack with like 6 named Resistance pilots. A few other cards like a new EPT with a Tech and Modification upgrade.

Make a 1 point Missile upgrade that gives it +1 Red Dice at ranges 2-3. I don't think that would make the ship too good, it doesn't allow you to spam cheap EPT's on them with A-Wing Test Pilot if you want to run 5 (unless you go with 0 cost EPT's).

Give it a 0 cost Title that removes the modification slot called "Resistance Salvage" that removes the Modification Slot, and gives it a Tech slot and allows it to turn it's 3 K-Turn into either direction S-Loop when it's dial is revealed. Don't make it limited by Pilot Skill like AWTP. It also stops throwing Test Pilot, a Mod and a Tech on the new pilots and making them bonkers. Just make the new ship have the bigger cannons shown in Rebels and the on set photos with the new paint scheme.

I really don't think it would make the ship too good, the A-Wing isn't bad as is, it just needs a bit more love for the aces to shine. The generics can still do some work with what they have now. Those two upgrades would give us so many ways to run the little ship, and they would bring it to the same technological level of the current Resistance ships.

I don't know, that is just me. I really don't want them to screw up the new A-Wing or make the current one obsolete.

On 4/14/2017 at 10:50 PM, Marinealver said:

We can tell that there is a good chance that NONE OF THESE SCENES COULD BE IN THE MOVIE!

The reason there were a ton of unused material in the Rogue One trailers is that Gareth, uh. Would frequently just shoot scenes because they looked cool, without regard for how or if they could fit into the actual film he was making. Surprise: turns out when you film random stuff because it looks cool A: it doesn't fit but B: it looks cool , so the marketing people ask permission to use it in the promotional stuff. Why is this relevant? Because Gareth Edwards is not directing Episode VIII.

It would be fun to fly my A-Wings with 3 attack, that would be cool! But doesn't that open Pandora's box even more with red dice creep? Then TIEs will need 3, then Interceptors and X-Wings will need 4 to make them cost worthy to the newly unlocked graded As and TIEs, then, then, then...