I'm very excited to be behind a game that will have tournament support, but I'm worried about how restrictive the tournaments will be.
Especially when it comes to conversations, painting, proxies etc..
Anyone have any ideas of how this game will be.
Tournaments Restrictions
It has been im the past that proxies are not allowed, however as long ad the figure is still recognizable as what it is modding is fine.
Yea you just can't mess with the bases and templates
7 hours ago, Feddog25 said:I'm very excited to be behind a game that will have tournament support, but I'm worried about how restrictive the tournaments will be.
Especially when it comes to conversations, painting, proxies etc..
Anyone have any ideas of how this game will be.
FFG generally wants to ensure two things are true for tournament participation:
1.) You have purchased all of the products you intend to use.
2.) Your modifications will not interfere with gameplay.
With that in mind, the most likely restrictions will involve not being able to proxy any model completely, nor any dial, unit card, upgrade card, movement template, or die, no modifications that make a unit unrecognizable, no modifications to base size or tray footprint.
Painting won't matter. My IA are still mostly unpainted and been playing in tournaments for years.
Painting might matter based on venue, but I doubt FFG will require it.
Edited by kingbobb1 hour ago, kingbobb said:Painting might matter based on venue, but I doubt FFG will require it.
Well, if they do that, they are probably basing it on experience with GW than FFG.
1 hour ago, Toqtamish said:Painting won't matter. My IA are still mostly unpainted and been playing in tournaments for years.
Depends on the tournament, Adepticon has an all painted requirement (though I've never been, so I don't know how much it's enforced)
It's definitely going to depend on the tournament.
For the Store through Worlds Championship type tourneys, I doubt painting will be required at all.
At the same time, the themed Quarterly kits with themed multi-battle setups and the like, who knows?
Stores can certainly host their own tournaments and require whatever they want.
9 hours ago, Taki said:Depends on the tournament, Adepticon has an all painted requirement (though I've never been, so I don't know how much it's enforced)
I don't think that still holds true for the convention overall. I know the IA events didn't require it. I'm sure most events probably do.
12 hours ago, Taki said:Depends on the tournament, Adepticon has an all painted requirement (though I've never been, so I don't know how much it's enforced)
Yeah no. Maybe for GW but FFG has never required that kind of stuff.
11 hours ago, Tvayumat said:It's definitely going to depend on the tournament.
For the Store through Worlds Championship type tourneys, I doubt painting will be required at all.
At the same time, the themed Quarterly kits with themed multi-battle setups and the like, who knows?
Stores can certainly host their own tournaments and require whatever they want.
FFG events do not require painted minis. If a store wanted to do a painted only event they can. But that would be stupid.
12 hours ago, Taki said:Depends on the tournament, Adepticon has an all painted requirement (though I've never been, so I don't know how much it's enforced)
Adepticon has a fully painted requirement for table top games. It doesn't apply to casual games and boardgame events. Imperial Assault qualifies as a boardgame, so they don't apply the requirement.
Having said that, I've never heard of anyone being turned away from an event because they didn't have a painted force. Mostly because few, if any, show up without an unpainted force for big events.
People can encourage painting in their tournaments by having prizes for best painted. That is something FFG can encourage in their game kits.
Guy at WHFB US Masters a couple years ago sprayed 3 different colors all over his army and used pennies for shields. Probably 10 minutes of work. Had 3 minimum colors and a conversion.
18 minutes ago, Eric W said:Guy at WHFB US Masters a couple years ago sprayed 3 different colors all over his army and used pennies for shields. Probably 10 minutes of work. Had 3 minimum colors and a conversion.
I'd like to think tournament organizers have enough discretion to recognize when someone is thumbing their nose at the spirit of their rules...
4 minutes ago, Tvayumat said:
I'd like to think tournament organizers have enough discretion to recognize when someone is thumbing their nose at the spirit of their rules...
Yea but at the same time they can't tell him no becuase he did follow the letter of the rules even if it was purposefully against the spirit.
Just now, Lyraeus said:Yea but at the same time they can't tell him no becuase he did follow the letter of the rules even if it was purposefully against the spirit.
See, I would tell him no, assuming I had the authority to do so.
Sure, people would rant and rave about the letter of the rules, but that guy knew what he was doing when he chose to do it.
You better get used to seeing unpainted armies. This isn't Games Workshop here.
13 minutes ago, Toqtamish said:You better get used to seeing unpainted armies. This isn't Games Workshop here.
I've literally posted
in this thread
that there is zero chance of FFG requiring painting for their competitive events.
13 minutes ago, Tvayumat said:
See, I would tell him no, assuming I had the authority to do so.
Sure, people would rant and rave about the letter of the rules, but that guy knew what he was doing when he chose to do it.
Sure but then you are segregating someone and that could lead to issues and many many problems.
I would chat the guy up and see why he did it. If he was malicious (Nazi Imperial Guard guy) then out he goes since he was not respecting the work others put in. If not and he did it just to be able to play then I do t see an issue.
Just now, Lyraeus said:Sure but then you are segregating someone and that could lead to issues and many many problems.
That's why they don't let me make the decisions
Unless FFG starts offering their own paint lines, which i doubt, theres no real reason to mandate paint for tournaments.
The other miniature games mandate it because they own paint lines....or have rather rich deals with one.
10 minutes ago, Tvayumat said:
I've literally posted in this thread that there is zero chance of FFG requiring painting for their competitive events.
Why are you assuming I was replying directly to you and not in general ? If I was I would have quoted you.
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