Defence Token Mitigation

By Ginkapo, in Star Wars: Armada

This is something I noticed I needed after our (second) first round of CC. I had two Interdictors with Konstantine and a small wing with a slicer tool gozanti. I had to hit a Liberty with.....6? Or so shots from my dictors to start getting damage on the hull of it. And I still didn't kill it since I screwed up and didn't get a double arc in the last round to finish off the last hull on it, and that was even after like 5 rams.

Definitely some food for thought for my list. IOs might be making their way in, otherwise ICBs also to increase damage output.

8 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Norra reduces a shield facing.

This synergises with x17s.

This does not synergise with TRCs.

As you are alluding to. You could be more efficient. So why not!

Because 2 TRC has more utility than trying to synergise with Norra.

And I could make an argument saying Norra dropping shields to 0 means TRC can push a crit that synergises with Dodonna, which allows me to deal more damage or stay alive in the long run.

A fleet does not need 100% synergy to be effective. But it does need to be cohesive. I see fleet building as a 3 tier method to make sure it is cohesive.

Top Tier: Everything in the fleet works with the objectives.
Middle Tier: Every ship works with the commander.
Bottom Tier: Upgrades work with each other.

So bringing Toryn, BCC, GH, etc. fulfills the bottom tier.

Bringing Dodonna, TRCs, and bombers fulfills the middle tier.

And everything fulfills the objectives.

Bombers, Dodonna and TRC works well with PS. Dodonna puts a crit on, and I can keep flipping it.

GH, Jan, and BCC works well with CO. I want my fleet to be bunched up to stay near the station. The CR90s can loop around the rear to take out flotillas and deal damage.

And Evade fleets work well with SC since it pretty much gives all my ships a free ECM. Kinda.

And in regards to your topic of mitigating defense tokens, this is a death by a thousand cuts. TRCs dishing out 2x2 auto damage a round. And 7 bombers. If I wanted to be more efficient, I would want to run Y-wings or B-Wings, which means I could drop a BCC. Need the double to make red bomber dice effective, something I know painfully well. The list is more of a proof of concept that red bombers can be good.

3 hours ago, Green Knight said:

Good stuff.

Maybe elaborate more about how to use synergies, like XI7 + ACM or APT?

Mon Karren. Possible uses for HTT. Etc.

Heavy ACM does nothing to synergize with xi7. ACM flat out discourages redirect entirely, as you want to keep your other shields intact to absorb ACMs. You definitely do not need both.

6 minutes ago, Undeadguy said:

And in regards to your topic of mitigating defense tokens, this is a death by a thousand cuts. TRCs dishing out 2x2 auto damage a round. And 7 bombers. If I wanted to be more efficient, I would want to run Y-wings or B-Wings, which means I could drop a BCC. Need the double to make red bomber dice effective, something I know painfully well. The list is more of a proof of concept that red bombers can be good.

:)

3 hours ago, geek19 said:

Do you think Home One has a place in the current meta though? I know a lot of people are like "just use Home One noobs" but I have yet to see anyone try it competitively. I assume itd be a Command Cruiser version with several other ships, and potentially with squadrons as well. Or would you Defiance style with a new title on it?

Used it recently to win a 500 point tournament...

I play it at 400 points too, but it is tough to really make it sing.

12 minutes ago, shmitty said:

Used it recently to win a 500 point tournament...

I play it at 400 points too, but it is tough to really make it sing.

Oh yeah your use of it is making me think about using it. I'm debating it in my eventual CC fleet.... Whenever we get to it. Or our crazy 500 point tournament of our own.

You misspelled "defense."

;)

6 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

**** it @Ginkapothe Pre-Worlds moratorium on helpful articles has begun.

No more tips. :)

How long till worlds now?

@Ardaedhel Keep that up and I may start correcting the date on EVERY SINGLE Geek and Snipe blog thread.

5 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

How long till worlds now?

@Ardaedhel Keep that up and I may start correcting the date on EVERY SINGLE Geek and Snipe blog thread.

Joke's on you, I prefer your date system.

12 hours ago, geek19 said:

Do you think Home One has a place in the current meta though? I know a lot of people are like "just use Home One noobs" but I have yet to see anyone try it competitively. I assume itd be a Command Cruiser version with several other ships, and potentially with squadrons as well. Or would you Defiance style with a new title on it?

This was the third version. The original dropped some squads and the flotilla for a third TR90, Jaina's Light, and crew Leia. The original got me second at Chicago Regionals.


Regionals - 40 grit bombers
Author: Church14

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 396/400

Commander: General Rieekan

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Planetary Ion Cannon
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona

[ flagship ] MC80 Command Cruiser (106 points)
- General Rieekan ( 30 points)
- Home One ( 7 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
- Leading Shots ( 4 points)
= 160 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
- Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
- Turbolaser Reroute Circuits ( 7 points)
= 51 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Toryn Farr ( 7 points)
- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)
= 33 total ship cost

1 Norra Wexley ( 17 points)
1 Green Squadron ( 12 points)
1 Dagger Squadron ( 15 points)
2 X-Wing Squadrons ( 26 points)
1 Jan Ors ( 19 points)
1 Gold Squadron ( 12 points)