Love the idea of an imperial campaign, but I am a bit confused - are the female imperial protaganist and her mates tie fighter pilots or are they special forces ? They can't be both, surely?

1 minute ago, hismhs said:

Love the idea of an imperial campaign, but I am a bit confused - are the female imperial protaganist and her mates tie fighter pilots or are they special forces ? They can't be both, surely?

Why not? My guess is, that they use whatver is needed. Raid a Space Station? Ties. Infiltrate a ground base? Use your legs.

37 minutes ago, hismhs said:

Love the idea of an imperial campaign, but I am a bit confused - are the female imperial protaganist and her mates tie fighter pilots or are they special forces ? They can't be both, surely?

Special Forces are suppose to be cream of the crop, so it would make sense that they would be pushed harder to have a diverse skill set to handle any situation.

We have Shadow Troopers, Death Troopers, Imperial Commandos - how many more distinct types of 'special forces' do Disney want to cram into the Empire's TOE? Sometimes, less is more.

10 hours ago, Zeoinx said:

Cannon is pretty dead to me. It ended when Disney bought out Starwars and deleted the Orginal EU , sure, it wasnt perfect, there were indeed things even I didnt like about it, but the fact was it was ESTABLISHED, and around long enough that it should never have been dismissed in its entirety.

This argument has been done to death. As much as I love the EU and know most about the EU, sticking to it would have severely restricted the stories they could tell for Episode VII and while there was great stuff, for every Heir to the Empire, there were 10 Children of the Jedi books. Establishing a new canon was the best possible answer, especially since even then that stuff wasn't 100% canon, whereas now it's confirmed that everything is canon and they are at least attempting to maintain continuity.

Plus it's not all just gone, Thrawn came back, and in the recent Thrawn book they pretty much-established everything about Thrawns origins in the EU is true and still canon. So they cherry pick the best bits and leave the waffle.

27 minutes ago, hismhs said:

We have Shadow Troopers, Death Troopers, Imperial Commandos - how many more distinct types of 'special forces' do Disney want to cram into the Empire's TOE? Sometimes, less is more.

Oh trust me, the EU had much much MUCH more. Besides, there has been a precedent set: Sandtroopers, Snowtroopers.

-troopers are basically various specialty units equipped and trained for various terrains and tactics of warfare.

But Inferno Squad seems to be a predecessor unit to the First Order's TIE/SF and the units that use them, being TIE pilots with red trim who also engage in ground ops. We'll probably learn a bit more in the book that precedes it.

But anyway, it's not like it's unrealistic. US Special Operations Command covers like a dozen units across the four main military branches and so forth (nor is this a "crime" exclusive to disney-era LF. Can anybody actually tell a substantive difference between say a Shadow Stormtrooper, a Novatrooper and a Storm Commando other than by visuals of the top of their head?)

From what I understand, in some theaters SF units may be mixed and matched from members depending on the requirements of the mission. There are some squads that seem more tight-knit like SEAL teams or snipers and their spotters (they switch roles sometimes), but the military isn't about you and your battle-brothers; you are a number. The reason you exist as an infantryman is to secure objectives: that is the only thing that cannot be done with missiles, jets, or shells. The only reason SF exist is to clear out specific threats to allied infantrymen so that their infantry can secure the objectives.

If command wants you working with the Deathtroopers today and you have the skills, you'll be wearing black in no time. There's no reason they couldn't recruit for specific units out of existing ones.

Stormtrooper -> Scout trooper -> Storm Commando -> Spec-Ops -> Deathtrooper -> Royal Guard.

Marine -> Marine Specialist -> SEAL -> SEAL Specialist -> SEAL leader -> Spooky Action at a Distance.

3 hours ago, hismhs said:

Love the idea of an imperial campaign, but I am a bit confused - are the female imperial protaganist and her mates tie fighter pilots or are they special forces ? They can't be both, surely?

That kind of threw me off, too. They are clearly wearing Imperial flight suits, but taking part in ground combat like they are meant to be there, and not some accidental case of a pilot shot down or fighting in defense.

The only thing I can think of, is that Iden Versio and crew are some sort of Imperial Special Forces that are trained for both, and with TIE tech being what it is, and Battlefront gameplay being what it is, if Versio and her people are expected to jump into a TIE in the middle of a mission, they need to be in flight suits, as regular trooper armor is not going to provide the requisite life support needed for a TIE pilot.

This isn't the first time the Empire has fielded hybrid units - In Legends only Storm Commandos were authorized to use the expensive and dangerous TIE Hunters. And the New Republic very famously used hybrid pilot/commando units in the X-Wing series.

If I had to guess it's kind of like a rapid response thing - Inferno can take flight in fighters to gain air/space superiority, land and then jump out for ground ops, then hop in their fighters and GTFO when the mission is done. I'm a little curious how the Fighters and the raider interact, since it's clearly hyperspace capable but doesn't look like it has docking clamps or hangar space... Maybe this is the return to another idea common in X-Wing, TIE series ships modified to hold hyperdrives - at increased production cost and reduced maneuverability.

37 minutes ago, OneKelvin said:

Spooky Action at a Distance.

So......its....Saaad.... Got it, Seals top branch is sad...

1 hour ago, Zeoinx said:

So......its....Saaad.... Got it, Seals top branch is sad...

It's a pervasive theme and science fiction, military units are generalists and can do any job. Comes from the need to have main characters perform a diversity missions and activities.

Angry Joe's trailer review goes in depth into the "no season pass" news. Worth a watch.

2 hours ago, OneKelvin said:

Would you like some tapioca?

On 4/15/2017 at 4:16 PM, Reaver027 said:

Looks like the Raider is used by special forces. I am really happy to see the ship in the official canon. It looks so good. My favorite model of the game.

It being in a FFG already made it canon especially since its creation had to be approved upon by LFL, now this make really put you in a pickle, but did you know the first SWBF:EA is flat out non-canon? How do we know this one is? Because of LFL inconsistencies with new material being canon or non-canon, when it was supposed to all be canon, they will have to say it is or it might not be.

5 minutes ago, Black Knight Leader said:

It being in a FFG already made it canon especially since its creation had to be approved upon by LFL, now this make really put you in a pickle, but did you know the first SWBF:EA is flat out non-canon? How do we know this one is? Because of LFL inconsistencies with new material being canon or non-canon, when it was supposed to all be canon, they will have to say it is or it might not be.

Well, that first EA Battlefront didn't actually contribute anything to lore. The closest it came to it, as I remember, was when it added the Battle of Jakku map to tie into TFA. With an actual story for Battlefront 2, I think it is more likely that this will be considered canon.

15 hours ago, eMeM said:

So apparently they've admitted BF:EA DLC policy was a mistake, and there won't be a season pass this time...

And they want most/all DLCs to be free.

That's not posible. I sense a plot to destroy gaming.

Always be wary of EA.

1 hour ago, Black Knight Leader said:

It being in a FFG already made it canon especially since its creation had to be approved upon by LFL,

This is what we have been told since the buyout, that anything released after the buyout was overseen by the storygroup and canon. Until now, however, there has been precious little evidence that the story group actually paid any attention to such a fringe corner of the fandom as a hobby game. What the raiders inclusion in BF does is prove that the story group is actually doing its job by confirming that a ship created solely by FFG, and until now only present in their games, really and truly is fully canon, with the same weight behind it as the Falcon.

Tldr- this proves they were telling the truth when they said everything after the buyout is canon.

Something I have been wondering. It has been almost 2 years since the Raider was released. Bit more than that since it was announced. I don't know what the lead time is on developing a video game or writing a book, but I'm curious if the Raider is showing up in multiple things right now because it has taken this long for creators to become aware of a new design and then incorporate it a new property.

Actually, no, nothing FFG puts out is "canon". It draws from both and is subject to LFL approval as part of the license, but FFG had that before the canon split, which is why they can still produce Legends material like the TIE/AG. LFL has said before that some games (mostly mobile ones) are explicitly non-canon, or if the names and lore are canon - even if the events aren't. Battlefront (and a lot of games actually) falls into the latter category, things which appear in it are intended to be within the canonical frame but obviously because it's a big multiplayer shooter with no story there's there's no "events" to canonically happen in the greater universe. There's no source which explicitly points out the first EAfront as being non-canon (compare with Galaxy of Heroes). Since there is a campaign now, and another official tie-in novel which will precede it, we should assume not only the appearances of places people and objects but rough story points to be canon also unless somebody says it is. Sex to donuts if you tweeted somebody like Pablo Hidalgo about it though the answer would be something like "well, duh" (or just, if not more likely, "wait until its out").

And glad EA decided to go back to the ME3 multiplayer system for DLC. COMPLETELY UNRELATED OPINIONS ABOUT THE SINGLEPLAYER ASIDE, that game had a solid MP component which wasn't pay to win, had no season pass and the free content was actually neat.

38 minutes ago, UnitOmega said:

And glad EA decided to go back to the ME3 multiplayer system for DLC. COMPLETELY UNRELATED OPINIONS ABOUT THE SINGLEPLAYER ASIDE, that game had a solid MP component which wasn't pay to win, had no season pass and the free content was actually neat.

Most definitely. I'm hoping Andromeda's MP shapes up similarly.

The spec ops have seeker droids! http://starwarsrebels.wikia.com/wiki/ID9_Seeker_Droid

16 hours ago, hismhs said:

We have Shadow Troopers, Death Troopers, Imperial Commandos - how many more distinct types of 'special forces' do Disney want to cram into the Empire's TOE? Sometimes, less is more.

The US alone has SEALs, Rangers, Delta Force, Green Berets and more, same goes for other countries, so I don't really see that as a problem.

18 hours ago, Zeoinx said:

Would you like some tapioca?

I kinda would, but I'm not sure how you're supposed to get it to me through the computer.