Situation Nr.1 : one of my characters has Con Artist and Cunning equipped.

For reference:

Con Artist

Yellow character only.

Special: Place 1 damage on this upgrade. Then discard cards from the top of an opponent's deck equal to the amount of damage on this upgrade.

Cunning

Yellow character only.

Special: Resolve a special ability () on another card in play as if it were your card.

What happens if I use Cunning's special to use Con Artist's power?

a) Cunning would put a token on Con Artist and then mill my opponent's deck for the new amount of tokens

b) Cunning would mill only if there are already tokens on Con Artist.

I think that is a).

Situation Nr.2 : one of my characters has Cunning equipped, one of my opponent's character has Con Artist.

What happens if I use Cunning's special to use Con Artist's power?

a) Cunning would put a token on Con Artist and then mill my opponent's deck for the new amount of tokens

b) Cunning would mill only if there are already tokens on Con Artist.

I still think that is a) but the fact that you actually modify an opponent's card is tricky.

What do you guys think?

I think Cunning works the exact same way it has since release. Try moving the Con Artist to your side of the table as if it were yours , and then see if the interaction is a little more clear.

Situation A.

You resolve it as if it was your card so put a damage on it and mill him... i dont know why you would buff his con artist though...

Cunning resolves all effects of a card, as printed. The only change is the targeting, all other restrictions are followed (except for edge cases like Holocron). It doesn't matter whether it's a negative effect for the opponent.

Based on Con Artist's text, you'd put the token on (it doesn't matter that it's not being generated from the card itself), and then mill the opponent. The result is the same regardless of who's Con Artist it is.

I think Cunning would place the token on itself... so you put the damage on Cunning and then discard one of your opponent's cards. The whole idea with Con Artist is that it takes a while to get rolling, so I think it's not a great target for Cunning. You'd have to use Cunning on the Con Artist several times for it to start really doing anything.

6 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

I think Cunning would place the token on itself... so you put the damage on Cunning and then discard one of your opponent's cards. The whole idea with Con Artist is that it takes a while to get rolling, so I think it's not a great target for Cunning. You'd have to use Cunning on the Con Artist several times for it to start really doing anything.

This isn't right. When Cunning triggers, any effects that target the card work on the card being copied. When you Cunning a Thermal Detonator, it's the Thermal Detonator that gets discarded, not Cunning. Same goes for Con Artist.

6 minutes ago, Buhallin said:

This isn't right. When Cunning triggers, any effects that target the card work on the card being copied. When you Cunning a Thermal Detonator, it's the Thermal Detonator that gets discarded, not Cunning. Same goes for Con Artist.

Ok, yeah, you're right. So, Con Artist can just mill both player's decks really quickly if Cunning is in play.

Playing both Con Artist and Cunning in the same deck is really scary.

On 22/10/2016 at 7:50 PM, thestag said:

On 11/4/2017 at 10:10 PM, blackholexan said:

Situation Nr.1 : one of my characters has Con Artist and Cunning equipped.

For reference:

Con Artist

Yellow character only.

Special: Place 1 damage on this upgrade. Then discard cards from the top of an opponent's deck equal to the amount of damage on this upgrade.

Cunning

Yellow character only.

Special: Resolve a special ability () on another card in play as if it were your card.

What happens if I use Cunning's special to use Con Artist's power?

a) Cunning would put a token on Con Artist and then mill my opponent's deck for the new amount of tokens

b) Cunning would mill only if there are already tokens on Con Artist.

I think that is a).

Situation Nr.2 : one of my characters has Cunning equipped, one of my opponent's character has Con Artist.

What happens if I use Cunning's special to use Con Artist's power?

a) Cunning would put a token on Con Artist and then mill my opponent's deck for the new amount of tokens

b) Cunning would mill only if there are already tokens on Con Artist.

I still think that is a) but the fact that you actually modify an opponent's card is tricky.

What do you guys think?

You're going evil...