okay i am talking about ccgs

And this is the first CCG to have supply issues?

12 hours ago, Amanal said:

And this is the first CCG to have supply issues?

these days it's rare and they did not just have a supply issue they have have done this multiple times. I played

pokemon

yugioh

magic

bleach

dragonball z ccg (bandai)

naruto

dragonball ccg (score)

rez(score

panz(panini)

battle spirit

Kajudo

fight club

UFS

vs systems

and more

not once had a problem with ordering product ,

23 hours ago, ozmodon said:

Sounds like someone is going to be opening and selling on ebay. I heard some people saying that they only got one box for the pre-release. If they got any they got all 3 boxes so what happened to the other 2? Sounds like some shady dealings going on.

They didn't have a pre-release event. I'm talking about what they are being told they are getting for RELEASE.

5 hours ago, soviet prince said:

These days it's rare and they did not just have a supply issue they have have done this multiple times.

These days, but not those days?

Dice masters isnt a CCG ?

5 hours ago, soviet prince said:

these days it's rare and they did not just have a supply issue they have have done this multiple times. I played

pokemon

yugioh

magic

bleach

dragonball z ccg (bandai)

naruto

dragonball ccg (score)

rez(score

panz(panini)

battle spirit

Kajudo

fight club

UFS

vs systems

and more

not once had a problem with ordering product ,

Dice masters isnt a ccg?

well lets not even debate that

Of your list the ones I highlighted are gamed that have had "supply issues" from selling out of a set to stores getting less numbers etc. and those are only the ones I played.

Why are you on these forums? It seems you HATE destiny looking at your comments.

On 4/17/2017 at 2:27 AM, krzykoopa said:

Dice masters isnt a CCG ?

Dice masters isnt a ccg?

well lets not even debate that

Of your list the ones I highlighted are gamed that have had "supply issues" from selling out of a set to stores getting less numbers etc. and those are only the ones I played.

Why are you on these forums? It seems you HATE destiny looking at your comments.

none of those games had supply issues, you could always get product so I dont know what your talking about.

no I like this game I am just not blind and see ffg running this game into the ground.

37 minutes ago, soviet prince said:

None of those games had supply issues, you could always get product so I don't know what your talking about.

I started playing Magic way back, and gave up when supply never met demand and the rather monopolistic distributor put on a 400% markup on product.

So I know exactly what he is talking about.

Destiny is more a collectable dice game than card. It is the dice that are the problem, not the cards. So comparing it to a card game is just wrong. Truth is, the margins are so much better on those card games they can afford to over produce and not lose their shirt. This isn't the case with a dice game that retails the same as a card game.

Comparing the two is just silly.

3 hours ago, soviet prince said:

none of those games had supply issues, you could always get product so I dont know what your talking about.

no I like this game I am just not blind and see ffg running this game into the ground.

Got ya, you only turn a blind eye to other games.

2 hours ago, Mep said:

Destiny is more a collectable dice game than card. It is the dice that are the problem, not the cards. So comparing it to a card game is just wrong. Truth is, the margins are so much better on those card games they can afford to over produce and not lose their shirt. This isn't the case with a dice game that retails the same as a card game.

Comparing the two is just silly.

Truly, the dice are VERY well made. A clear decision was made for QUALITY over fast and voluminous production. I prefer to have dice that look great at the table and last me and my family years, then getting stuff months sooner. It's a bold game design decision, and I'm glad they had the balls to make it.

3 hours ago, Mep said:

Destiny is more a collectable dice game than card. It is the dice that are the problem, not the cards. So comparing it to a card game is just wrong. Truth is, the margins are so much better on those card games they can afford to over produce and not lose their shirt. This isn't the case with a dice game that retails the same as a card game.

Comparing the two is just silly.

If FFG is going to tell me it's a card game, I'm going to hold them to the same expectations that I hold everyone else. All of the ill will they're generating right now comes down to both their marketing and production decisions, not a conscious effort on our part to label them.

5 hours ago, Amanal said:

I started playing Magic way back, and gave up when supply never met demand and the rather monopolistic distributor put on a 400% markup on product.

So I know exactly what he is talking about.

magic was the first it is understandable then but it's been a long time since then and the problems been worked out

4 hours ago, Mep said:

Destiny is more a collectable dice game than card. It is the dice that are the problem, not the cards. So comparing it to a card game is just wrong. Truth is, the margins are so much better on those card games they can afford to over produce and not lose their shirt. This isn't the case with a dice game that retails the same as a card game.

Comparing the two is just silly.

it's being marketed as a ccg so they will be compared to a ccg.

2 hours ago, krzykoopa said:

Got ya, you only turn a blind eye to other games.

no, you turn a blind eye to the truth. there was no point in those games you could not find a box at reasonable price, this is the first time I seen such a mess product shortage was non existent.

I swear tomorrow if they announced they will delay the product to next year ppl would still be giving them excuses.

7 minutes ago, soviet prince said:

magic was the first it is understandable then but it's been a long time since then and the problems been worked out

it's being marketed as a ccg so they will be compared to a ccg.

no, you turn a blind eye to the truth. there was no point in those games you could not find a box at reasonable price, this is the first time I seen such a mess product shortage was non existent.

I swear tomorrow if they announced they will delay the product to next year ppl would still be giving them excuses.

You are wrong, very wrong to a point where its hard to even comprehend you and not because of how you speak but because it is so false people don't know what extent of bullshyt you are capable of drumming up.

I swear tomorrow they can say they will have triple what the demand was and you would still be completely against destiny.

15 minutes ago, krzykoopa said:

You are wrong, very wrong to a point where its hard to even comprehend you and not because of how you speak but because it is so false people don't know what extent of bullshyt you are capable of drumming up.

I swear tomorrow they can say they will have triple what the demand was and you would still be completely against destiny.

how am I wrong? all you been saying is how wrong I am. where your example of when those game had a supply shortage this bad? were?

I am not against destiny, I love this game but I don't like it's parent abusing it. If they handled this right this game would be twice the size as it is now. FFG shows me they don't believe in this game to risk printing the required product to support a ccg there going the safe route, to make money you got to spend money why should I believe in a product when they don't even believe in it?

again this is not the first time this happened this is the third and each time this happens the more ppl are going to jump overboard. If you really cared about this game you would make them accountable for there missteps instead of giving them excuse after excuse.

Destiny has been promoted more then any game FFG has made. Awakenings was, according to FFG, the largest printing they've ever done for any product. SoR, they've claimed is even larger still.

To claim they don't believe in the product when they are throwing more weight behind it then any other game they've made does not make sense.

Whether the weight is enough is one thing, but it's there. There are literal physical limitation when manufacturing a product. There are only so many facilities you can utilize and a limit to how much they can make.

What make more sense? That FFG and Asmodee are purposefully under producing demand, which costs them money, or that they don't yet have the ability to produce enough to meet demand because of production limitations?

2 hours ago, WonderWAAAGH said:

If FFG is going to tell me it's a card game, I'm going to hold them to the same expectations that I hold everyone else. All of the ill will they're generating right now comes down to both their marketing and production decisions, not a conscious effort on our part to label them.

If it were just a card game, then there wouldn't be a production problem. It's the dice. Been over this many times.

Also, just because MM can't get 9000 boxes doesn't mean anything. If MM did end up with 9000 boxes, 8000 of them will end up on Ebay. Wait until the third wave of SoR to judge if they aren't meeting demand.

Just a heads up that from the e-mail I received it looks like MM is not going to be doing preorders for the next set. Will still carry Destiny but no preorders.

3 hours ago, ScottieATF said:

Destiny has been promoted more then any game FFG has made. Awakenings was, according to FFG, the largest printing they've ever done for any product. SoR, they've claimed is even larger still.

To claim they don't believe in the product when they are throwing more weight behind it then any other game they've made does not make sense.

Whether the weight is enough is one thing, but it's there. There are literal physical limitation when manufacturing a product. There are only so many facilities you can utilize and a limit to how much they can make.

What make more sense? That FFG and Asmodee are purposefully under producing demand, which costs them money, or that they don't yet have the ability to produce enough to meet demand because of production limitations?

more research would have helped, this is not the 1st time this is the 3rd time they had plenty of time to correct the problem

11 hours ago, soviet prince said:

how am I wrong? all you been saying is how wrong I am. where your example of when those game had a supply shortage this bad? were?

I am not against destiny, I love this game but I don't like it's parent abusing it. If they handled this right this game would be twice the size as it is now. FFG shows me they don't believe in this game to risk printing the required product to support a ccg there going the safe route, to make money you got to spend money why should I believe in a product when they don't even believe in it?

again this is not the first time this happened this is the third and each time this happens the more ppl are going to jump overboard. If you really cared about this game you would make them accountable for there missteps instead of giving them excuse after excuse.

Since you like repeating yourself I might as well to

I don't need to cite exact dates and sets that is a lot of work and seeing as you put 0 effort into your responses I am not going to do the leg work. In other threads I have and you just act ignorant to the facts I present as stated before when I quoted the GAMA video that thread is a perfect example. Also those who played those games know exactly what I am talking about hat not every set was super readily available.

You have a funny way of showing you aren't against something, once AGAIN the GAMA thread addresses what you are complaining about for the 100th time.

Third time this has happened? The second set isn't even out yet I repeat THE SECOND SET HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET and you are saying this is the 3rd time this happened… And I swear FFG could saturate the market with destiny product and you would still be here bitching post after post.

7 hours ago, soviet prince said:

more research would have helped, this is not the 1st time this is the 3rd time they had plenty of time to correct the problem

More research…. GAMA again talks about this and see above for 3rd time comment because you just say the same non sense in multiple threads hell even in this thread.

13 hours ago, WonderWAAAGH said:

If FFG is going to tell me it's a card game, I'm going to hold them to the same expectations that I hold everyone else. All of the ill will they're generating right now comes down to both their marketing and production decisions, not a conscious effort on our part to label them.

First, I don't know why you're ever in this forum because all you do is complain and then act like a child when someone makes a valid counterpoint to your bull. If you hate Destiny or FFG so much, you should find somewhere else to spend what must be hours every single day. You comment on every thread and the large majority of your comments are useless and negative.

Second, FFG isn't telling you this is a card game. FFG has called this a "collectible dice and card game" every time they've mentioned it. From their Destiny central page and their video tutorial to every single article they've published, the words "collectible dice and card game" are ever-present. Hold them to whatever standard a moron like you holds companies to, but don't try to twist their words to justify your stance.

I bet you're a terrible person to play any game with.

On 4/12/2017 at 10:13 PM, Amanal said:

I think though this is on the store, they left their order far too late.

Mind you to be promised two boxes when you only asked for one, seems to me the store has the opportunity to get more than it wants.

I don't think it is. I don't think there's any way that even if everyone had pre-ordered, FFG would have had enough stock in this first wave to satisfy all of them.

On 4/15/2017 at 7:32 PM, drunkensith said:

My LGS told me SoR is a one and done print run, did FFG say they were doin multiple waves? if so where I would like to know as the stores near me still have extras boxes to pre-order and I wanted to wait but ifs it a one and done I may get another box or 2.

They are only doing one print run but they are shipping the stock from that run in different waves.

18 minutes ago, Cliffietheman said:

First, I don't know why you're ever in this forum because all you do is complain and then act like a child when someone makes a valid counterpoint to your bull. If you hate Destiny or FFG so much, you should find somewhere else to spend what must be hours every single day. You comment on every thread and the large majority of your comments are useless and negative.

Second, FFG isn't telling you this is a card game. FFG has called this a "collectible dice and card game" every time they've mentioned it. From their Destiny central page and their video tutorial to every single article they've published, the words "collectible dice and card game" are ever-present. Hold them to whatever standard a moron like you holds companies to, but don't try to twist their words to justify your stance.

I bet you're a terrible person to play any game with.

I really dig the irony, kiddo. Why don't you model some positive forum behavior for me, eh? Make a thread talking about cards or strategy, since nobody else seems inclined to.

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Play out your own epic, saga-spanning, “what if” battles in Star Wars ™: Destiny, a collectible dice and card game for two players!

Note, Dice and card, dice is first and foremost. Not a CCG but a CDCG. To be fair,CDCG isn't a huge thing, so I can see how one could be COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY WRONG in thinking it was just a CCG.

The most important difference of course is production of the game. Those silk screen dice are far harder to make than a standard printed card and is a completely new process. The margins on those boosters is a lot lower as well. Hasbro makes all kinds of monies off magic because those boosters really don't cost them that much. If they over produce and no one buys Conspiracy lets say, they don't lose a lot. This isn't the case for a dice game. So over producing a CDG isn't an option for any business. This is simply the reality of this game. If you think this is just a CCG and have all those expectations, then this game isn't for you. You need to walk away and go play a CCG.

The truth is, other than the print on demand core sets, those expansions may never be printed in excess of demand. They are however doing a great job of making sure places like MM don't get way too much product so the hoarders and price gougers don't corner the market but instead get those boxes to local game stores so they can get them into the hands of the gamers. If you think you should just be able to go down to Target or Barns and Noble and pick up a few Destiny boosters along with a few magic boosters, well then, this isn't the game for you. This is a small, local game store game and supply is going to be what it is.