Painting? Will you?

By eilif, in Runewars Miniatures Game

Heck yes! In fact I already did some test runs of the red/black/bronze/verdigris scheme I am thinking of for Waiqar on some reanimates from the Descent Expansion Mists of Bilehall .

I'm aiming for a good table top standard for painting, but will be doing some SCRUM style project management to get there. The basic idea of of SCRUM is that you work towards the smallest identifiable value point first, then the next, then the next. For example, If I base coated, shaded, and highlighted all of the bone on a unit of reanimates and then stopped there, I'd have a really crappy looking, half painted unit. But if I base coat all of the colors first, for every model, they won't look great up close, but will be passable from eye distance. So, step one is base coat all of the colors for one unit. Then do all of the shading, for all of the colors. Then do all of the highlighting for all of the colors. Then I'll do all of the little details like teeth, eye glow, etc. By doing it in these steps, I can stop at any point I get tired or run out of time and still have a coherent, if not amazing looking army at each step.

And I sincerely hope that most, if not all, of the players I play with will also take the time to paint. While I realize that all people come to the game with different goals, one thing that differentiates a minis game from others is the sheer spectacle of it and painting adds a tremendous depth to the experience of the game. In fact, I just consider it good sportsmanship to paint an army with a degree of effort. Not doing so robs your opponent of part of their experience. I'll still play against unpainted armies and will run unpainted units myself as I go along and expand and try new things out, but I do feel it's important to paint.

I'll be painting them to the level of my own abilities, so sub-tabletop standard!

20 hours ago, Budgernaut said:

I'm torn about painting. On the one hand, I just want to get them painted so I can play with them. From that perspective, the dip method is appealing. But these things are larger and more detailed than the BattleLore figures, so I feel that the dip method fits the BattelLore figures much better (and there are more of them). So for Runewars, I want to try to take my time and use new painting techniques I haven't tried before. I don't want to rush my painting, but I also want to play the game!

I dipped my Waiqar infantry, if I can hold it in pliers and it fits in the can it gets dipped lol. now will be going back to add some detail like rust and blood and make their eyes glow purple...characters and bigguns get washes, I really like the army painter quickshade ink because I can get the same tone as my dip so the two different types match the shading.

19 hours ago, eilif said:

Partnering with army painter is a good idea. I wonder whether if Runewars takes off, there will be FFG paints at some point.

Dipping is great for 28mm but if you're worried about results, one thing that works for alot of folks is to dip their rank-and-file troops and spend more time on their charachters and monsters. I dip everything and get good results, but I also spend a bit more time detailing my charachters. I posted it elsewhere, but this is variant of the "dip" method I use:

https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2012/01/16/with-liberty-and-brush-dipping-for-a/

I think FFG said that they don't have any plans to get into paints because they don't want to become a chemical company. I would imagine we just see official RW paint kits from TAP in a bit, I know they already do have standard color scheme bundles that have everything you need to assemble, prime, paint, dip, and base the factions...

I am going to paint miniatures to the level that I don't cry my self to sleep at night too often when I look at all the better painters on here...

I'll paint them a little at a time, as my time allows.

I'll play them ever chance I get no matter the painting stage.

I'll be painting mine, as this is how I got into the hobby in the first place and I very much enjoy it. But I paint slowly, and I won't let unpainted figures stop me from playing.

I doubt FFG will require painted armies at their events...the LTP book even says that it's fine to play with unpainted figures, and how great they look naked. But some events are going to have fully painted requirements...it's a standard at Adepticon for table top events. Boardgames aren't held to the same standard, so Imperial Assault and related games get played but don't need to have painted figures. RMG probably won't be exempted, but at the same time, FFG has a big enough presence at the con now with X-Wing that they might be able to get special rules for RMG.

this is one of those topics that pop up in 40k all the dang time

Why on earth would you spend so much money on stale gray minis if you werent going to paint them? I admit, the draw i had to xwing/armada was i DIDNT have to paint for once, but i'd be lying if i said i didnt miss painting.

Theres nothing more satisfying than fielding a fully painted army that also carries your own personal flavor. To this day i have yet to see another purple/green/white Tau player lol

(edit: shameless plug... https://imgur.com/a/eoX0u hehehe)

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10 minutes ago, Vineheart01 said:

this is one of those topics that pop up in 40k all the dang time

Why on earth would you spend so much money on stale gray minis if you werent going to paint them? I admit, the draw i had to xwing/armada was i DIDNT have to paint for once, but i'd be lying if i said i didnt miss painting.

Theres nothing more satisfying than fielding a fully painted army that also carries your own personal flavor. To this day i have yet to see another purple/green/white Tau player lol

Yea, having an army personalized to you. To have a background, a history, and love put in... Yes. So worth it.

7 hours ago, jek said:

I dipped my Waiqar infantry, if I can hold it in pliers and it fits in the can it gets dipped lol. now will be going back to add some detail like rust and blood and make their eyes glow purple...characters and bigguns get washes, I really like the army painter quickshade ink because I can get the same tone as my dip so the two different types match the shading.

I think FFG said that they don't have any plans to get into paints because they don't want to become a chemical company. I would imagine we just see official RW paint kits from TAP in a bit, I know they already do have standard color scheme bundles that have everything you need to assemble, prime, paint, dip, and base the factions...

Good to know. I wasn't suggesting FFG would actually make their own paint, rather that they'd just outsource it the way other companies have in the past. Cote d'Arms made all of GW's paints for a long time.

1 hour ago, Vineheart01 said:

this is one of those topics that pop up in 40k all the dang time

Why on earth would you spend so much money on stale gray minis if you werent going to paint them?

This is roughly my opinion too.

I wrote an opinion piece about this one a couple years back that I think still holds up today. Don't want to get into it here, but for those who would like to read it....

https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2014/08/24/painting-matters-in-defense-of-hobby/

The pictures didn't make the transition to the new blog, but I think the words stand on their own.

I'm here for the game- not the wonderful experience of painting a bunch of guys.

I'm giggling a lot.

Mostly because of the terminology used:


"We have finished the army to a good gaming standard over the course of just a few evenings. However, you might want to add highlights and extra details to your miniatures once you got some extra time. We refer to this as “tournament standard,” and it takes the look of the army to a new level."

Take from that as you will. I doubt it will actually mean anything, but, Y'know... Its right there on the painting guide.

I'm trying very hard to have a fully painted Waiqar force...I have has to stop myself on several occasions where I almost started paining Daqan stuff and mentally slapping my hand and yelling "NO YOU HAVE 8 MORE TRAYS OF REANIMATES, 4 TRAYS OF ARCHERS AND 2 WORMS STILL TO PAINT STOP IT!!!!"

hopefully I can get this stuff painted by wave 1 because that will give my 5 trays of infantry, 2 more worms and 2 hero models...fuuuuu

Tournament standard?

That literally means 3 colors. No detail or anything. Black, a color of choice, and a dab of a third random color BAM tournament standard

I always paint my models to look great on the board, usually using like 12-14 colors a model lol (rather use different shades of a color rather than mix it to get a different shade that way). What i dont do is the insane tiny details some people do where if you zoom up on the model it still looks insanely detailed and well done - basically any details you cant see from 1-2 feet away i dont even bother with.

Lets just say that I have set up a Scrum board to track my progress with painting this game. It is actually surprisingly useful and motivating. Good place to track what colours and mixes you used when painting aswell.

Always awesome to see a burndown chart go down when you spend a few hours painting. Must find all the ways to motivate myself :D.

7 minutes ago, jek said:

I'm trying very hard to have a fully painted Waiqar force...I have has to stop myself on several occasions where I almost started paining Daqan stuff and mentally slapping my hand and yelling "NO YOU HAVE 8 MORE TRAYS OF REANIMATES, 4 TRAYS OF ARCHERS AND 2 WORMS STILL TO PAINT STOP IT!!!!"

hopefully I can get this stuff painted by wave 1 because that will give my 5 trays of infantry, 2 more worms and 2 hero models...fuuuuu

You know Slurm McKenzie deserves paint

4 minutes ago, Dancken said:

Lets just say that I have set up a Scrum board to track my progress with painting this game. It is actually surprisingly useful and motivating. Good place to track what colours and mixes you used when painting aswell.

Always awesome to see a burndown chart go down when you spend a few hours painting. Must find all the ways to motivate myself :D.

Scrum board?

Just now, Lyraeus said:

Scrum board?

Scrum is a Project Mangement system. Scrum boards are a tool you use to track the progress of a project, you generally do this in Projects that have a few participants. It is useful both for anyone performing a task in the project and for Project Managers like myself, who need to keep an eye on progress and resource allocation.

4 minutes ago, Lyraeus said:

You know Slurm McKenzie deserves paint

I'm trying to figure out how to best make a true slurms mckenzie...

4 minutes ago, jek said:

I'm trying to figure out how to best make a true slurms mckenzie...

Green-stuff some sunglasses and a hawaiian shirt on that bad-boy.

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15 minutes ago, jek said:

I'm trying to figure out how to best make a true slurms mckenzie...

Small little party hat and a mug of ale in a hand.

1 minute ago, Lyraeus said:

Small little party hat and a mug of ale in a hand.

*Reveals command dial showing special action*

"WIMMY WAM WAM WOZZLE!"

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Just now, Tvayumat said:

*Reveals command dial showing special action*

"WHIMMY WHAM WHAM WOZZLE!"

Isn't that how the blight tokens are thrown? I could of swore.

Oh and make his ale greenish... Sort of blightish

2 hours ago, Lyraeus said:

Isn't that how the blight tokens are thrown? I could of swore.

Oh and make his ale greenish... Sort of blightish

I was thinking of making little slurm cans to use as blight

14 minutes ago, jek said:

I was thinking of making little slurm cans to use as blight

Hahahaha... I wonder...

I'll be painting my stuff. I have no issues with them not requiring it though. Some people just don't like/ don't want to paint so not having that requirement makes the game more accessible.