In a good number of missions there are civilians and non-conmabant allies that are often represented with tokens. The last time I had this come up I thought about proxying the chip with a civilian-like figure (like Gideon) but then decided against it. My two questions for folks to ponder:

1) Have you come up with creative alternatives to the tokens in these scenarios?

2) Would you pay money for a "civilian figures" ally pack? If so, what would this look like?

The old Star Wars Minatures game from Wizards of the Coast has a loooot of figures that could fill this role. I've used them for that in campaign.

You can buy singles of these figures from Coolstuff Inc.

1) My issue is usually that these tokens are very often able to share spaces with other figures, similarly I have issues with replacing Companions.

2) I wouldn't no...

11 minutes ago, Majushi said:

1) My issue is usually that these tokens are very often able to share spaces with other figures, similarly I have issues with replacing Companions.

2) I wouldn't no...

The point about sharing a space is a good point. I hadn't even realized that this was possible until I just consulted the RRG. I was previously under the impression that these tokens were treated as "neutral figures" but now see that they are probably treated as "mission tokens" representing people. I love how I seem to learn (or re-learn) a new rule every week. I guess that means that sometimes you must unlearn what you have learned .

Mission Tokens

These tokens are used to represent objects, people, or general

points of interest. Mission tokens have no inherent effects and act

as specified in the mission.

•" Mission tokens do not block line of sight or affect figure

movement. Figures can enter and end their movement in the

same space as a mission token."

for captured prisoners, or some civilians, i work a hero from the past campaigns into the story and use their miniature. maybe they were captured in a solo mission. and it is good to bring up players old heroes for narrative purposes.

as for sharing spaces. it sometimes comes up and we know as a group that they share the space, it doesn't get confusing.

I use General Sorin mini for General Wiess in a mission where he is an imperial officer.

I use one ISB infiltrator for Verena's brother. (in her side mission)

I use Vinto as Shazark (for jyns side mission, just change the wording to a rodain instead of trandoshan)

I even used a space marine, when i didnt have my IG88 model, and made him an HK assassin droid before they even existed.

i mainly use heroes as minis and work them into the story. (i think there is one mission, where the heroes have to wait for another strike team somewhere else on the planet to do something, i worked into the story that they were the players old team from another campaign they played.)

using minis can help spark imagination and make it look less silly that there is a sliding token man on the floor.

Yes I would pay for good Star Wars civilian models. Note that I said "good", not "any". I like civilian models in general. When I paint a historical army, I always paint up a unit of civilians appropriately dressed for the culture and decade of that army. I have peasants, paper pushers, priests and paupers for 15th century France, 13th century Scotland, and New Kingdom Egypt. When I swapped out all the contents of Castle Ravenloft and Wrath of Ashardalon for older pre-painted versions of the sculpts, I went ahead and replaced the 6 cardboard civilian NPC tokens with pre-painted civilian mins from whatever lines I could. It is one of my favorite aspects of a new army. But for science fiction and fantasy GOOD civilian models are often missing from the ranges.

Yeah, as long as you aren't worried about stacking figures on top of each other when someone shares a space with a civilian, I think using non-used Rebel heroes is a decent substitute. One time, my group even used Lando and Han as civilians- it was silly, but a lot of fun!

Using guys from WOTC collection is also interesting. I don't have as many of those as I used to but I have a lot.

3 minutes ago, TauntaunScout said:

Using guys from WOTC collection is also interesting. I don't have as many of those as I used to but I have a lot.

There are a lot of good civilian looking figures in that collection, and none of them are anything but commons. The Human Engineer is a good example.

18 hours ago, Spidey NZ said:

for captured prisoners, or some civilians, i work a hero from the past campaigns into the story and use their miniature. maybe they were captured in a solo mission. and it is good to bring up players old heroes for narrative purposes.

as for sharing spaces. it sometimes comes up and we know as a group that they share the space, it doesn't get confusing.

I use General Sorin mini for General Wiess in a mission where he is an imperial officer.

I use one ISB infiltrator for Verena's brother. (in her side mission)

I use Vinto as Shazark (for jyns side mission, just change the wording to a rodain instead of trandoshan)

I even used a space marine, when i didnt have my IG88 model, and made him an HK assassin droid before they even existed.

i mainly use heroes as minis and work them into the story. (i think there is one mission, where the heroes have to wait for another strike team somewhere else on the planet to do something, i worked into the story that they were the players old team from another campaign they played.)

using minis can help spark imagination and make it look less silly that they is a sliding token man on the floor.

I really like the idea of integrating familiar faces into some of the missions. Especially if you've been playing with the same group. There's a good chance that you'd be assisting a character that a player had previously been which is super fun. Of course, as empire you may have to destroy them:)

I've used zombie figures from other games in one of my campaigns. They're a good representation for how the Rebel players typically feel about this kind of character and usually the imagery is a solid reflection of how fast those characters move.

The metal WEG Star Wars minis had lots of good civilians. At least "lots" in terms of a % of the overall line. There were only about 150 different figures produced, which is a lot compared to IA, but not compared the to WOTC line. They probably had a dozen or so good looking unarmed figures for various uses. Some classic ones like the cantina band, bartender, Oola, etc. but also some unarmed Star Warsy looking humans billed as "Old Senatorial", "Tongue Tied Engineer", and "Female Gambler".

Too bad everything nowadays is too big to use with them. I liked the old smaller minis.

14 hours ago, TauntaunScout said:

The metal WEG Star Wars minis had lots of good civilians. At least "lots" in terms of a % of the overall line. There were only about 150 different figures produced, which is a lot compared to IA, but not compared the to WOTC line. They probably had a dozen or so good looking unarmed figures for various uses. Some classic ones like the cantina band, bartender, Oola, etc. but also some unarmed Star Warsy looking humans billed as "Old Senatorial", "Tongue Tied Engineer", and "Female Gambler".

Too bad everything nowadays is too big to use with them. I liked the old smaller minis.

I've seen some questionably painted Oola's from that line back in "the day."

9 hours ago, Rikalonius said:

I've seen some questionably painted Oola's from that line back in "the day."

She was (arguably) the worst sculpt in the entire line. Either her, or the Space Troopers. At least the Space Troopers were useful for battles.

On 4/13/2017 at 5:16 AM, TauntaunScout said:

The metal WEG Star Wars minis had lots of good civilians. At least "lots" in terms of a % of the overall line. There were only about 150 different figures produced, which is a lot compared to IA, but not compared the to WOTC line. They probably had a dozen or so good looking unarmed figures for various uses. Some classic ones like the cantina band, bartender, Oola, etc. but also some unarmed Star Warsy looking humans billed as "Old Senatorial", "Tongue Tied Engineer", and "Female Gambler".

Too bad everything nowadays is too big to use with them. I liked the old smaller minis.

Agreed. Huge fine of the WEG minis.

Me too. I'm painting up big Hoth armies for both sides in it. Although in that game "big" was like 40 models per side. The game was really only designed to be like 60 models, freakishly huge would have been 80 models per side. I painted enough Hoth Imperials to play it, plus a few snowy hills and scratch built a 25mm shield generator. I've just scratched the surface on Hoth rebels though. I am painting them alongside my Imperial Assault stuff, it's very interesting to paint two very similar models of different scale.