Nerf Luke

By Schu81, in X-Wing

Lukes ability is way overpowered.

I think he's the reason why we didn't get any XWing buffs yet, because any XWing buff or new Astromech would also buff Luke.

Seriously... have you ever done the maths about him?

Let's say there are 367 T-Fighters attacking him from one side and 22 or even 23 Z-95 attacking him from the other side.

All of them have just performed a K-Turn and so they can not modify dice. Luke has performed a K-turn, too, but he can still modify dice!

That would be 390 red dice coming at him! 390! And know what? Luke has got very good chances not to get hit by any of these shots, because he can always turn one of his eye results of any evade-roll.

What is he? A freaking Jedi or something? Seriously, Fantasy Fun Games. You have to do something about this.

Luke is also the reason why we don't see any Tie Swarms at the tables anymore.

I have heard that he has performed a solo (not the man) against some freaking badass list once and still won.

Edited by Schu81

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Wasn't Luke pretty good back in the day for precisely this reason?

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Joke thread? Ah Nerf It.

Nerf You, and Nerf Off You Nerf Herder.

Anyway, I still consider Luke's abilty pretty strong. Don't know why there's no love for him

You want a joke ? Let me tell a story about this :

Sometimes we do initiation for new players, we only use the core set for this : Rebel have luke skywalker and empire avec Dark Curse and Obsidian (same point for all, no upgrade), it was nearly impossible to shot down Luke on this conditions...

Luke pushes so many Imperial lists out of the meta.

Why would I even buy a Death Star in the first place, as long as Luke can kill it using Deadeye Elite & a Proton Torpedoe

Deadeye should be large ship only! Maybe the Jumpmasters would finally see some play then.

1 hour ago, Cerve said:

Anyway, I still consider Luke's abilty pretty strong. Don't know why there's no love for him

Cause he flies a sheetty ship. Luke is awesome, its just his ride that suck. I still have my Luke promo waiting to be fielded. Some day...maybe...i hope...still hope...

2 hours ago, Schu81 said:

Lukes ability is way overpowered.

I think he's the reason why we didn't get any XWing buffs yet, because any XWing buff or new Astromech would also buff Luke.

Seriously... have you ever done the maths about him?

Let's say there are 367 T-Fighters attacking him from one side and 22 or even 23 Z-95 attacking him from the other side.

All of them have just performed a K-Turn and so they can not modify dice. Luke has performed a K-turn, too, but he can still modify dice!

That would be 390 red dice coming at him! 390! And know what? Luke has got very good chances not to get hit by any of these shots, because he can always turn one of his eye results of any evade-roll.

What is he? A freaking Jedi or something? Seriously, Fantasy Fun Games. You have to do something about this.

Luke is also the reason why we don't see any Tie Swarms at the tables anymore.

I have heard that he has performed a solo (not the man) against some freaking badass list once and still won.

Really? April 1st long passed.

1 hour ago, Vitalis said:

Cause he flies a sheetty ship. Luke is awesome, its just his ride that suck. I still have my Luke promo waiting to be fielded. Some day...maybe...i hope...still hope...

Not enough to get unplayable. I think that Luke+Vectored Thrusters is a nice start. Something like this:

X-Wing: · Luke Skywalker (28)
Push The Limit (3)
R2 Astromech (1)
Vectored Thrusters (2)
-- TOTAL ------- 34p. --

or

X-Wing: · Luke Skywalker (28)
· Lone Wolf (2)
· R2-F2 (3)
Vectored Thrusters (2)
-- TOTAL ------- 35p. --

I like it actually.

Edited by Cerve

I used Luke at my first tournament and came 3rd.

3 years ago...

Overall problem with T-65 Aces is that you want mobility (EU/Vectored) BUT on the same slot you want integrated to survive a bit longer.

Only even semi viable build i would consider here is:

Luke, Lone Wolf, BB8 , Integrated. 32points. But then again...why just not T-70...?

I heard Luke once took on an entire Death Star...

3 hours ago, Arkanta974 said:

Let me tell a story

Yes, but have you heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?

If you actually do the maths of even the 23 Z-95s attacking, you'll find they are virtually guaranteed to damage Luke. The TIEs would destroy him easily - a 4% chance of a single TIE/Z-95 doing two damage, and a very, very good chance of them doing one.

Luke is great, except that he has a terrible taste in starfighters.

8 hours ago, defkhan1 said:

Wasn't Luke pretty good back in the day for precisely this reason?

Not really. 2 red dice TIEs with a reroll on damage punched through 2 green dice with half a focus pretty easily, pretty much since day one.

Please start a topic like this with Fel's Wrath

The 2012 is calling, it is asking for their nerf thread back.

2012 is calling, :lol:

9 hours ago, Vitalis said:

Overall problem with T-65 Aces is that you want mobility (EU/Vectored) BUT on the same slot you want integrated to survive a bit longer.

Only even semi viable build i would consider here is:

Luke, Lone Wolf, BB8 , Integrated. 32points. But then again...why just not T-70...?

Nah, I don't care about Integrated. That's for Biggs only.

No need to survive if I fly as a can :-/

In all seriousness what if his ability was blank into evade instead of focus into evade?

It would be about 12.5% better?

Just now, LunarSol said:

It would be about 12.5% better?

Yeah but now if you have a focus for defense on average you are guaranteed 2 evades, give him R2-D2 and now you need to do >3 damage to have any net effect. Would make him more playable

11 hours ago, Stoneface said:

Really? April 1st long passed.

It's a pretty good parody when you have just read some of the partly hilarious posts in the Nerf Mindlink or various similar Nerf-this-Nerf-that threads criwding the forum.

16 minutes ago, Sir13scott said:

Yeah but now if you have a focus for defense on average you are guaranteed 2 evades, give him R2-D2 and now you need to do >3 damage to have any net effect. Would make him more playable

I know; just had to grab the low hanging fruit. ;)