Quadjumper and reverse boost?

By Stoneface, in X-Wing Rules Questions

This came up in a conversation yesterday. If the Quadjumper can move in reverse, can it also boost in reverse? If it was equipped with Pattern Analyzer, that would push the Check Pilot Stress step back after the Perform Action step.

I have some very devious players in my area.

No you can't boost backwards. The reference card (and my BIG one) state to put the manoeuvre template between the ships front guides.

26 minutes ago, Parravon said:

No you can't boost backwards. The reference card (and my BIG one) state to put the manoeuvre template between the ships front guides.

We were afraid of that. Considering that the RRG was out before a reverse maneuver was available, there was a brief glimmer of hope that it was possible.

It would have opened up the game to some truly bizarre maneuvers.

1 hour ago, Stoneface said:

We were afraid of that. Considering that the RRG was out before a reverse maneuver was available, there was a brief glimmer of hope that it was possible.

It would have opened up the game to some truly bizarre maneuvers.

And the glimmer has now been squashed.

Even if it worked it wouldn't have been worth spending 4 points on and not getting the tractor array.

2 hours ago, Stoneface said:

It would have opened up the game to some truly bizarre maneuvers.

Yea like reversing + barrel roll is not bizarre enough :)

1 hour ago, Parravon said:

And the glimmer has now been squashed.

Party pooper!

1 hour ago, RejjeN said:

Even if it worked it wouldn't have been worth spending 4 points on and not getting the tractor array.

All depends. Tugs with tractor arrays and tugs with bombs.

14 minutes ago, Vitalis said:

Yea like reversing + barrel roll is not bizarre enough :)

That was sort of the idea. Like one crazy doodle bug. With a bomb and bombadier.

You may not be able to reverse boost, but you should be able to reverse SLAM.

6 minutes ago, joeshmoe554 said:

You may not be able to reverse boost, but you should be able to reverse SLAM.

Nope; Burnout SLAM is large ship only, so the quaddie can't ever use it.

:( Drat, you're right. I should really play scum a bit more.

If it could reverse boost then why shouldn't other ships be able to do the same? Have the rules for Boost been rewritten?

12 hours ago, StevenO said:

If it could reverse boost then why shouldn't other ships be able to do the same? Have the rules for Boost been rewritten?

Because other ships can't fly backwards. That was why the question was asked. Many things have changed with the release of the Quad, reverse being one of them. Dropping an Action bomb when revealing a reverse maneuver being another.

The idea was reveal a reverse maneuver and boost in the same direction, backwards. Possible with Pattern Analyzer.

But not possible with the usual boost. ;)

I mean, it's not like the fact that K turns and Sloops exist remotely implies that you can do k-turn and sloop boosts.

Do what the card (the Boost reference card) says. Do not do what the card does not say*.

*unless the FAQ says otherwise.

- Have one Quadjumper move behind the other, use his tractor beam to barrel roll him as far back of the base as possible

- Other quadjumper performs his straight reverse and using pattern analyser, barrel rolls back into position (again, using the back fo the base) as much as possible.

It's not a reverse boost, but it's as close as you'll get :P

5 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

I mean, it's not like the fact that K turns and Sloops exist remotely implies that you can do k-turn and sloop boosts.

Do what the card (the Boost reference card) says. Do not do what the card does not say*.

*unless the FAQ says otherwise.

Not yet. The day might come when you can sloop after a k turn. There are combos now that let you to boost and barrel roll after a red maneuver. Not every ship can pull that off but it is possible.

3 minutes ago, Stoneface said:

Not yet. The day might come when you can sloop after a k turn. There are combos now that let you to boost and barrel roll after a red maneuver. Not every ship can pull that off but it is possible.

That's not my point at all.

Some ships can perform manoeuvres by which they do a straight template out of the front guides, then flip 180.

Does that in any way imply that you could flip 180 after doing a boost?

No.

Same applies to reverse manoeuvres. Just because elsewhere in the game it's possible to do a reverse manoeuvre, doesn't change the rules for how boost works, in exactly the same way as the ability to do K turns, doesn't change how boost works.

15 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

That's not my point at all.

Some ships can perform manoeuvres by which they do a straight template out of the front guides, then flip 180.

Does that in any way imply that you could flip 180 after doing a boost?

No.

Same applies to reverse manoeuvres. Just because elsewhere in the game it's possible to do a reverse manoeuvre, doesn't change the rules for how boost works, in exactly the same way as the ability to do K turns, doesn't change how boost works.

Point taken.

But was it unreasonable to ask, if you're travelling backwards, you couldn't boost in the direction of travel?

2 minutes ago, Stoneface said:

Point taken.

But was it unreasonable to ask, if you're travelling backwards, you couldn't boost in the direction of travel?

Given that you well know the principle of the game - do what the card says, don't do what the card doesn't say - and the card doesn't say you can boost backwards...

It wasn't unreasonable, but it was a question you were entirely furnished with the means to answer by yourself.

1 minute ago, thespaceinvader said:

Given that you well know the principle of the game - do what the card says, don't do what the card doesn't say - and the card doesn't say you can boost backwards...

It wasn't unreasonable, but it was a question you were entirely furnished with the means to answer by yourself.

Maybe. I still have a problem with some of the wording on cards, so when in doubt, I ask.