On 4/8/2017 at 1:31 PM, Xerandar said:

I don't know who you are or where you're from, but I feel like I've missed you.

I don't know who you are. If you want money, I can tell you I haven't got any.
But I will find you.
And I will miss you.

On 4/5/2017 at 7:58 PM, DraconPyrothayan said:

I haven't looked at the forums since October 2015 (Wave 8!), because my playgroup had completely collapsed several months prior.

Now, however, my FLGS is taking the place of the re-seller who was my previous source and host of the game, and I am excited to get back into it!

So: What'd I miss?

Hey, I'm glad you're back.

On 4/8/2017 at 11:57 AM, VanderLegion said:

TIE swarm I feel got significantly more viable again with the x7 and palp nerfs

More viable for sure but that's like saying the hwk is better now that there is another turret for it. It would be hard to imagine it getting worse.

I remember when it was basically build an 88pt imperial list because you WERE taking at least one academy tie. Now you're almost always better off spending the points on other ships than slimming down to fit one in.

On 4/8/2017 at 11:57 AM, VanderLegion said:

On 4/8/2017 at 11:57 AM, VanderLegion said:

you shouldn't push buttons so fast

On 4/8/2017 at 11:57 AM, VanderLegion said:

wow... quad post.

10 minutes ago, Rakky Wistol said:

More viable for sure but that's like saying the hwk is better now that there is another turret for it. It would be hard to imagine it getting worse.

I remember when it was basically build an 88pt imperial list because you WERE taking at least one academy tie. Now you're almost always better off spending the points on other ships than slimming down to fit one in.

Except the TIE Swarm isn't bad to start. It was quite good still up until x7 came out. Note that the crackswarm (and later pattiswarm) was a staple of the u-boat meta, and performed quite well. It only died off when x7 came out and a crackswarm couldn't kill commonwealth defenders. Now that you can block to deny the evade token and palp isn't nearly as scary when you're throwing 6 attacks.

And there's a big difference between "leave 12 points for an academy tie in every build" (which hasn't been the case for a very long time now) and "lets runa full swarm"

8 minutes ago, VanderLegion said:

Except the TIE Swarm isn't bad to start. It was quite good still up until x7 came out. Note that the crackswarm (and later pattiswarm) was a staple of the u-boat meta, and performed quite well. It only died off when x7 came out and a crackswarm couldn't kill commonwealth defenders. Now that you can block to deny the evade token and palp isn't nearly as scary when you're throwing 6 attacks.

And there's a big difference between "leave 12 points for an academy tie in every build" (which hasn't been the case for a very long time now) and "lets runa full swarm"

I love me some swarm. I wish they were the best list and had won every championship. It just hasn't happened and hasn't been even close for a long time (but the recent nerfs keep it still breathing at least).

I'd say it was the case until the phantom came out and even then 1 blocker was a good thing. When the meta went full in on two ship lists the Tie really died off since it was 12pts you were handing to an opponent a round. I forget often forget how long ago that was as I havn't been playing nearly a much in the past year. I do hope the swarm comes back as much as I hope there is a real xwing fix soon. The game started as xwing vs. ties and hardly any hit table time anymore.

5 minutes ago, Rakky Wistol said:

I love me some swarm. I wish they were the best list and had won every championship. It just hasn't happened and hasn't been even close for a long time (but the recent nerfs keep it still breathing at least).

I'd say it was the case until the phantom came out and even then 1 blocker was a good thing. When the meta went full in on two ship lists the Tie really died off since it was 12pts you were handing to an opponent a round. I forget often forget how long ago that was as I havn't been playing nearly a much in the past year. I do hope the swarm comes back as much as I hope there is a real xwing fix soon. The game started as xwing vs. ties and hardly any hit table time anymore.

Pattiswarm won yavin last year, one of the largest x-wing tournaments ever. Coincidentally, it was the last big tournament before Imperial Veterans released (Yavin was early june, Vets released at the end of june). I'd hardly call that not even close. It just backs up exactly what I said. X7 defenders killed off the tie swarm.