Since the release of CC I can no longer build a fleet that satisfies me at 400 points. I can no longer play standard Armada games, I have no friends left to play, that game is ruined.

This is part of their master plan to have 1,000 point epic play, complete with.... SSD.

Whew, i thought this was another, "blah blah capital ship game blah blah. Squadrons b blah ruining blah blah."

Glad to hear you are enjoying it. I know your not from my area, took us about a week to break the campaign. I wish they had spent more time play testing it, maybe it will age better with new waves.

I know that 500 points is probably too much for tournaments. But 450 imo feels just right

I've been playing at 200-250, but I am also teaching my dad to play, so we have something to do when I need to hide from the kids. Will be sweet when we get a new house build this fall, and we're next door to each other.

34 minutes ago, Wonderbread said:

Whew, i thought this was another, "blah blah capital ship game blah blah. Squadrons b blah ruining blah blah."

Naw, we are all just loving the 500 point games. We hope it was FFGs test for 500 point standard play.

1 hour ago, D503 said:

This is part of their master plan to have 1,000 point epic play, complete with.... SSD.

good thing i play 900 point fleets with 300 point fighters to prepare then

I can't find a fleet that completely satisfies me either. This doesn't stop me from continuing to try.

For me the sweet spot is around 800.

My friends and I use a bidding system based on the CC. One of us will challenge another at CC3, meaning we cannot use more than 3 upgrade cards per ship. If the opponent counters at CC2, and is not counter challenged, then we play a game with a max of 2 upgrade cards per ship. We've been known to tie-break by restarting the bid's, but limiting it to cards per fleet! BTW, if you use this system, it's best to limit Unique Squads to one per card in the bidding (so a bid of 3 cards also limits you to 3 Unique Squads in addition to 3 upgrade cards).

But then we like a challenge around here.

3 minutes ago, rudedog said:

My friends and I use a bidding system based on the CC. One of us will challenge another at CC3, meaning we cannot use more than 3 upgrade cards per ship. If the opponent counters at CC2, and is not counter challenged, then we play a game with a max of 2 upgrade cards per ship. We've been known to tie-break by restarting the bid's, but limiting it to cards per fleet! BTW, if you use this system, it's best to limit Unique Squads to one per card in the bidding (so a bid of 3 cards also limits you to 3 Unique Squads in addition to 3 upgrade cards).

But then we like a challenge around here.

that actually sounds pretty fun.

16 hours ago, Kristjan said:

Glad to hear you are enjoying it. I know your not from my area, took us about a week to break the campaign. I wish they had spent more time play testing it, maybe it will age better with new waves.

What did you guys break? Gameplay combos, or the rules were lacking?

7 minutes ago, Thraug said:

What did you guys break? Gameplay combos, or the rules were lacking?

Gallant haven, Biggs ball of doom and sadness

Oh whats this?

8 hours ago, Panzerninja said:

Gallant haven, Biggs ball of doom and sadness

Smells like Biggs breaks everything he is involved in.... See, THIS IS WHY BIGGS DIES IN THE MOVIE...so STARWARS WASNT BROKEN

8 hours ago, Panzerninja said:

Gallant haven, Biggs ball of doom and sadness

In CC? Doesnt seem like anything extreme unlike the objective based CC builds.

9 hours ago, Panzerninja said:

Gallant haven, Biggs ball of doom and sadness

You guys know the reassigned damage from Biggs' ability isn't mitigated by Haven, right? That's the only way I can imagine this seeming broken. It's good, no doubt, but 1) kill Biggs, 2) profit.

I ran up against this in my own CC and my Imperial Swarm Aces summarily trashed them every time. The other option, if you're running squadron-light, is to kill Haven early with ship-to-ship batteries.

21 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

You guys know the reassigned damage from Biggs' ability isn't mitigated by Haven, right? That's the only way I can imagine this seeming broken. It's good, no doubt, but 1) kill Biggs, 2) profit.

I ran up against this in my own CC and my Imperial Swarm Aces summarily trashed them every time. The other option, if you're running squadron-light, is to kill Haven early with ship-to-ship batteries.

In fairness, what it does do is frequently make Biggs shuffle only 1 damage point anywhere so you never have to worry about someone spiking through 3-4 damage on a damaged X-Wing or YT-1300.

Kit GH with Ruthless Strategists and I could see this being a pretty disgusting combination against squadrons if you could also keep them off your other ships.

5 minutes ago, thecactusman17 said:

In fairness, what it does do is frequently make Biggs shuffle only 1 damage point anywhere so you never have to worry about someone spiking through 3-4 damage on a damaged X-Wing or YT-1300.

No doubt, he really shuts down the damage spikes. Trying to wear down Biggs in this scenario is gruelling. Games against Gallant Haven can be so touch and go, especially if you don't see it much.

You know, come to think of it, Was Biggs really Luke's friend? I mean, Lets analyze the Battle of Yavin...

First up, "Blast it Biggs, where are you..."

This shows Biggs complete lack of concern over Luke, especially knowing Luke is an new pilot in a X-Wing, sure, Luke piloted a Skyhopper growing up on Tattoine, but he never flew a real combat mission, no knowledge of real military combat tactics, but he basically abandoned Luke to the Imperial Pilots...

Then Luke in the Trench....

"Hurry up Luke, we cant hold them much longer...wait...wait...arrrgghhhh.......<Static>" Biggs explodes in a fiery death of man and machine.....

and Luke kinda just......goes.....Meh...sighs, and keeps on flying...no real reaction to someone who is supposed to be his childhood friend., no momentary explosion of emotion, BIIIGGGSSSSS, no Obi Wan telling Luke to calm down and trust in the force and bla bla....He showed more concern for Wedge who got a laser blast scratch on his port engine....

and then when Luke blows up the death star, and lands on Yavin IV, Luke is all happy, bla bla, but then he see's R2D2 and is like, OH NO....R2 is shot up, a droid, not a REAL HUMAN CHILDHOOD FRIEND WHO JUST DIED, HE IS WORRIED ABOUT A MACHINE HE HAS ABOUT......2 days if that of a relationship with...I mean seriously, Biggs must not have been a huge friend cause **** he could care less about him...

Yay the Biggs-controversy again

Actually in Star Wars there was a whole scene which introduced the bond between Biggs and Luke on Tatooine, then another one before the battle. Unfortunately neither made it to the film (though the second one made it in 2004). But in the book, there are much more about their friendship. They have conversations that weren't even filmed both on Tatooine and on Yavin IV and Luke's emotional turmoil is described deeper after Biggs' death as well.

So read the books, always read the books because they are good stuff

They are friends, I think you maybe overthinking it

Pffttt, overthinking it he says, I say George Lucas UNDERTHUNK...YES YES ITS NOW A WORD, DEAL WITH IT, UNDERTHUNK IT! YEA...SURE

~~~~~~~~~~~~\o\ weeeeeeeeee

On 4/6/2017 at 11:23 AM, Panzerninja said:

Gallant haven, Biggs ball of doom and sadness

Yes this plus Reiken is all sorts of sad for the opponent.