Tech heretic quotes

By Jack of Tears, in Dark Heresy Gamemasters

I have a group of pcs breaking into an out of the way Admech temple which has been taken over by Logician agents and is currently being utilized for their "foul" and heretical research. During much of the mission I would like someone to be reciting quotes from the Logician holy test (forget the name without my book handy) as well as other appropriate, gospel sounding pronouncements, predictions, etc over the intercom system. The problem is, I can't seem to come up with any good passage/quotes for this purpose; which is where I need your help.

Some of these quotes should be read as mere propaganda and recitation of holy belief before the presence of the PCs is known - inspiration for the Logician agents - and some should be meant to try and sway opinion or provide insight once they are discovered. A dozen of these would be ideal - the more the merrier and all.

So, if you can come up with any - between a sentence and a paragraph or two - I'd appreciate the help.

Thanks.

Here are a couple thoughts on things which will be said/items which will be discovered:

"When I was young I was taught iron and flesh do not mix. That man-spirit and machine must dwell not together, but forever apart. The machine must not feel. I have heard the lies of the envious and supped upon them as if they were bread and data. But man is the holy machine and in perfecting body we perfect soul. To divide the two is unthinkable; the unthinkable become common. Delete not the knowledge of living, but unravel the riddle of the two-fold code. My starving children; come and sup on the food of life, the flame of passion, the agony of desire. Know that the machine is made greater by the spirit – the spirit greater by the machine. There is one god, all computing, keeper of the unending formula. The answer is nigh."

Item : A diagram is found amidst the remains of a quickly ransacked laboratory, it depicts a man in different stages of augmentation – arms, chassis, mechadendrite, cogitator, etc. Notes in a close, uniform hand identify each stage and lay out an equation meant to compute the psychological changes of each. In the margins the note is posted, “At what point is humanity lost?”

"The Omnisiah has given me life, the spirit has given me passion for knowing, the machine has given me reason for living. The perfect application cannot ignore its programming."

"Through flesh I was conceived, by flesh I was born, but in ignorance was I raised to condemn knowledge. The knowing of a thing cannot be evil, as the unknowing cannot be good. I have replaced unanswerable questions with undefined answers."

Item: Another laboratory is filled with brains in different states of augmentation, decomposition. On a large writing board, crudely erased as the occupant recently fled, are a series of equations, each with a single word next to them and a question mark. The words are “Love?” “Hatred?” “Anger?” “Envy?” “Lust?” The implication is that someone was trying to discover a mathematical formula for each.

“My wires are called veins, my receptors senses, my computations thought, my emotions corrupted data.”

I could use some help polishing these up a bit, in addition to any other suggestions.

My first thought would be the quote in disciples of the Dark Gods "Once we were gods but what are we now? Wilfuly ignorant savages and self deluded fools, little more than helpless children scattered and lost in the cold dark. But i tell you, but i tell you we have been Gods and we will be Gods again."

"By stagnation we have been taught what our masters masters knew, and by this we crumble and decay with calcified knowledge of old...but by progress we learn things our masters would have killed to know."

A group of items: two or three bird cages filled with birds of varying species some dead some flittering excited like they were recently scared, and on a table near by are a group of small robotic birds none of them activated or even possible of activation. On a clipboard or board near by are a few notes with the jist of something like "Creation A will not sing or fly, while Subject A still refuses to learn...termination of Subject A required and reprogramming of Creation A a plausible answer. Can not further experimentation until Creation mimics properly!" Basically they were trying to recreate instinct and actions in robotic form, and then planning to further their research on bigger more complex things.

"Through fire we fell, in darkness we have stayed, but through the light of knowledge we will rise again."

I cant really think of any more right now but i like this post, ive always been a fan of the Logicians.

My understanding of the Logicians is that they are actually opposed to the techo-mysticism of the Cult Mechanicus. So, I would expect their pronouncements to be the opposite of techno-gospel inspirational rhetoric. If it were me, I would have the chants of tech-dogma the acolytes would expect to hear filling the air of a Mechanicus shrine be entirely, horrifyingly, absent... replaced only by curt announcements calling laborers and technomats to certain tasks or announcing the status of projects.

Here's a handful:

In this world, which is so plainly the antechamber of another, there are no happy men. The true division of humanity is between those who live in light and those who live in darkness. Our aim must be to diminish the number of the latter and increase the number of the former. That is why we demand education and knowledge for all.

Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's mind without another's guidance. Dare to Know! Have the courage to use your own understanding!

How glorious, then, is the prospect, the reverse of all the past, which is now opening upon us, and upon the galaxy. The institutions of Governance, we may now expect to see, not only in theory and in books but in actual practice, calculated for the general good, and taking no more upon it than the general good requires, leaving all men the enjoyment of as many of their natural rights as possible, and no longer interfering with matters of religion, with men's notions concerning God, the Future State, philosophy, or medicine.

Educate the masses for against logic there is no armor like ignorance.

Men are apt to mistake the strength of their feeling for the strength of their argument. The heated mind resents the chill certainty and relentless scrutiny of logic.

Logic is the scarecrow of fools and the beacon of wise men.

Biologically man is the accumulation of the experiments of all its successful individuals since the beginning.

To hate and to fear is the be psychologically ill... it is, in fact, the consuming illness of our time that must be cured if man is to survive.

Our psychological reality, which lies below the surface, frightens us because it endlessly surprises us and drives us in a direction which society's rules and organizations define as wrong or dangerous.

The priesthood from which we came, as we know, has scorned and vilified the body till it has seemed almost a reproach and a shame to have one, yet at the same time has credited it with the power to drag divine creation to destruction. If it is weak, how can it have such power?

Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood and probably themselves will not be realized. Make big plans; aim high in hope and work, remembering that a noble, logical diagram once recorded will not die, but long after we are gone be a living thing, asserting itself with ever-growing insistence.

Be not afraid of going slowly, be afraid only of standing still.

Men are anxious to improve their circumstances, but are unwilling to improve themselves; they therefore remain bound.

It's the same each time with progress. First they ignore you, then they say you're mad, then dangerous, then there's a pause and then you can't find anyone who disagrees with you.

The reason for the slow progress of man seems to lie in a single fact. Every man is born under the yoke, and grows up beneath the oppressions of this age. He can only get a vision of the unselfish forces in the world by appealing to them, and every appeal is a call to arms. If he fights he must fight, not one man, but an army. He is always at war with a civilization. On his side is proverbial philosophy, a galaxy of invisible saints and sages, and the half-developed consciousness and professions of everybody. Against him is the universe, and every selfish passion in his own heart.

We are either progressing or retrograding all the while. There is no such thing as remaining stationary in this life.

Little progress can be made by merely attempting to repress what is evil. Our great hope lies in developing what is good.

Restlessness is discontent and discontent is the first necessity of progress. Show me a thoroughly satisfied man and I will show you a failure.

The power to question is the basis of all human progress.

Progress is the life-style of man. The general life of the human race is called Progress, and so is its collective march. Progress advances, it makes the great human journey towards what is divine; it has its pauses, when it rallies the stragglers, its stopping places when it meditates, contemplating some new and splendid promised land that has suddenly appeared on its horizon. It has its nights of slumber; and it is one of the poignant anxieties of the thinker to see the human spirit lost in shadow, and to grope in the darkness without being able to awake sleeping progress.

They always reminded me of the ZFT from fringe.

http://www.fringebloggers.com/page-from-zft-manuscript-transcribed/

One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man.

A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.

In the last analysis, even the best man is evil: in the last analysis, even the best woman is bad.

Nothing is beautiful, only man: on this piece of naivete rests all aesthetics, it is the first truth of aesthetics. Let us immediately add its second: nothing is ugly but degenerate man - the domain of aesthetic judgment is therewith defined.

“The world itself is the will to power - and nothing else! And you yourself are the will to power - and nothing else!"

The Logicians are pretty much callous science-obsessed researchers and "mad scientists" who utterly reject the techno-mysticism of the Adeptus Mechanicus but DO embrace the Mechanicus' goal of removing emotion from themselves as "unobjective baggage". These people more or less will rationalize any actions or measures taken "in the name of scientific progress". Spend a few hours searching out some old Nazi justifications for their experiments then move on to factory owners from the Industrial Revolution and I am sure you will have plenty of material for your upcoming mission.

I would avoid some of the cheesier 80's lines like "You need to break some eggs to make an omelette" and so on as I think it would cheapen the experience. Go for the classics of callous science-over-humanity for humanity's own good and you can't go too far wrong. Frankenstein is also not a bad idea for source material, though no direct quotes come to mind off the top of my head right now.

Non-technical questions sometimes don't have an answer at all.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Now the reason the enlightened prince and the wise general conquer the enemy whenever they move and their achievements surpass those of ordinary men is foreknowledge.

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.