FFG has released a nerf to flotillas!

By Tirion, in Star Wars: Armada

FFG has released a nerf to flotillas!

Some Armada players have found that the high percentage of fleets that contain flotillas to be a problem. Data proves that flotillas appear extremely often, and not only are they in a large percentage of fleets but those fleets often contain more than one. This has lead to a public outcry about the seemingly non playtested and game breaking aspects of these ships.

There are many aspects of the flotilla that have lead to many opinions on how to fix them. Some focus on it's ability to act as a cheap activation, or carrier. While others are disgusted by it's ability to safely fly a commander around aka a “lifeboat”. There are some additional, more specific, complaints but most can be organised into these two main groups.

FFG has heard the concerns about flotillas and has taken action. Ladies and gentleman I present a plethora of options straight from the minds of the design team!

First up we have H9 Turbolasers for 8 points you can all but guarantee the destruction of those pesky little carriers. By granting an accuracy by losing a damage rendering that annoying scatter useless, you can assuredly show that cheap activator who is boss!

Next up we'll take a look at a pair faction specific options. The Home One title for the rebels and Captain Jonus for the imperials.

The home one title is a 7 point upgrade for the MC80 Assault and Command Cruisers. It allows another friendly ship within 1-5 to change a die to an accuracy. Best part only this is you don't have to spend or lose anything! Those pesky reds coming up blank? Not anymore, just change one to an accuracy! Fleet wide scatter denial. Delicious!

On the imperial side we have the Tie Bomber Ace from the Corellian Conflict box Captain Jonus. Where if a friendly ship is attacking a ship within distance 1 of Jonus that ship can change one die to an accuracy. Again awesome and this is on a mobile platform even better. Pair that with his grit keyword and he is a great option for any imperial fleet. Especially for those in the business of hunting those little scatter bugs.

Continuing on we have the Intel officer. Nothing can be as annoying as getting a small flotilla lined up in your primary arc, rolling tons of damage with no accuracy. Doubly annoying when you realize you didn't bring a way for guaranteed accuracy. What is an admiral to do? Let me introduce you to the Intel officer. This handy little guy let's you choose a defence token of your target ship and if your opponent uses it the defence token will be discarded. That's right one and done! And this can go on any ship!


These are just some of the options coming out of FFG. Enjoy your games and remember if there are 7 flotillas on the table and you consistently see too many of them it might be worth a shot to counter your local or regional meta and add a dedicated flotilla hunter to your fleet. Change is good you may not be able to fly or build the same way you did in wave 2 but who wants that!?

Gr8 b8 m8.

Informative trolling.

The best/worst kind of trolling.

I actually chuckled.

Man, I guess what some of us have been saying isn't really coming across for some reason. Guess what? When I run a ton of flotillas, like 3, with 2 fighting ships, the common template, my opponents did try all the stuff you mentioned as good counters. Here's the problem: none of them work well enough to discourage me from taking a ton of flotillas. A Liberty with H9, sure. Also means you aren't shooting my other two ships (or maybe one of them if I feel comfortable enough sitting one there that it won't get one shot).

Being able to spread the flotillas out means your dedicated flotilla hunter likely only gets one flotilla, and doesn't contribute to shooting the two fighting ships. Maybe some people fly flotillas differently, but you can spread them out to the point that your opponent will likely only ever get one or two, and that's at the sacrifice of not killing the ships that are killing your ships. None of these counters work well enough to stop flotilla spam.

Take Home One? Awesome, my flotillas will never get into range of anything with teeth, except maybe one, if you have first player with more activations.

Take H9s? I assume on an MC80 or an MC30. Congrats on bagging that one flotilla while the other two continue to keep on cruising.

Jonus shows up? Again, I'll either stay out of gun range as much as possible or tie him up/kill him with squadrons.

An attempt at clickbait meets Jonathan Swift?

None of your suggestions stop lifeboating or activation sinking. Just tips for killing the buggers that do engage, which was never a significant problem. So your suggestions come up short.

4 minutes ago, Church14 said:

None of your suggestions stop lifeboating or activation sinking. Just tips for killing the buggers that do engage, which was never a significant problem. So your suggestions come up short.

Jesus Christ, this. Stop trying to strawman the opposition into saying flotillas are OP or flotillas themselves are the issue. The issue that has been argued is that the activation game itself is creating a stale meta . There have been good arguments against that point, but arguing that a flotilla is killable in no way addresses that issue that it is still worth it to bring a killable flotilla just to pad activation and deployments.

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Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

Glad to see it's not actually a problem and that myself, Caldias, Dr Reinholdt, PT-109, and many others are just bad at Armada :)

6 minutes ago, WWPDSteven said:

Glad to see it's not actually a problem and that myself, Caldias, Dr Reinholdt, PT-109, and many others are just bad at Armada :)

Dude, I've been saying I've been Bad at Armada for months ....

You're Crimping my Act! Stop it! :D

Can't reply right now- researching all these great upgrades mentioned in this thread! Intel Officer! Wowie Zowie how did I miss that?!

9 minutes ago, WWPDSteven said:

Glad to see it's not actually a problem and that myself, Caldias, Dr Reinholdt, PT-109, and many others are just bad at Armada :)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Have you considered... "Git gud?"

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Not gud enuf. Git gudder plox

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Praise the Sun!

Sensor Teams

5 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

Sensor Teams

Always the worst choice.

1 minute ago, Ardaedhel said:

Always the worst choice.

I have a great idea! Let's fill the WEAPONS TEAM slot with a card that eats up two whole dice to do a thing!

1 minute ago, Ardaedhel said:

Always the worst choice.

A close second I will grant you.

Dont waste firepower, Engine Tech!

Anyways, it's been fun hanging here in the X-Wing forums, but all this bitching is getting old. Can someone point me back to where they parked the Armada forums?

Just now, BiggsIRL said:

I have a great idea! Let's fill the WEAPONS TEAM slot with a card that eats up two whole dice to do a thing!

:) Were you around for when Ard ran the numbers and admitted it was an acceptable option..... under a very particular set of circumstances?

3 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:

Anyways, it's been fun hanging here in the X-Wing forums, but all this bitching is getting old. Can someone point me back to where they parked the Armada forums?

Yeah follow me in my transport that has a medium amount of room.... To soon?

1 minute ago, BiggsIRL said:

Anyways, it's been fun hanging here in the X-Wing forums, but all this bitching is getting old. Can someone point me back to where they parked the Armada forums?

When you find them, please hit me up with a link.

Seriously, though, only the Armada FAQ release is going to resolve it. It seems like a lot of the heat is coming from an assumption that "winning" an argument about flotillas/squadrons/whatever will result in FFG coming to the same conclusion. Once the FAQ/potential errata is released, then the matter will be laid to rest (...mostly, after the subsequent complaining/threatening to ragequit over whatever FFG decided to do or not do).

1 minute ago, Tirion said:

Yeah follow me in my transport that has a medium amount of room.... To soon?

You only used your medium transport to pad your post count. ;)

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Let's start again!